buba39 Posted October 20, 2009 Share Posted October 20, 2009 can any of the experts tell me when peterbuilt changed the 359 grill and headlights from the ovel to the newer style? and do any one know how old the amt pete 359 kit is i know it has been repop a number of times http://www.truckpaper.com/listings/detail.aspx?OHID=1825543 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Albion Posted October 23, 2009 Share Posted October 23, 2009 Buba, Check Tim's Web site: http://timstrucks.web.aplus.net/tim.htm I personally don't like the later square head lights but much prefer either the single round headlights or the twin round headlights. They have a more traditional and classic look to me and help to give the vehicle its individual character. Small details like this are one of the attractions for me. As for the year you will probably find that the headlights were changed to coincide with changes in regulations. The square ones were probably more complient with the latest legislation at the time. At a guess early 1980's. Best Regards Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mackinac359 Posted October 23, 2009 Share Posted October 23, 2009 Peterbilt used a chromed wire mesh for the grilles until 1972. Then the punched aluminum screen was used. Around 2003 the stainless punched oval hole grille was developed for the 379X. This grille screen became an option across the board eventually replacing the squared punched screen. The 320 COE still uses the punched squared screen. The headlamps: Standard: single rounds from the beginning until 1986. Quad rounds became available in the 1960s as an option. The quad rounds remained optional until 1986. The quad rectangular headlamp debuted on "Big Mamoo," the truck seen in the Peterbilt brochure "Rest In Class." The 359 sported the 127" BBC long hood, the first "Dash of Class" (aka: Corvette Dash), and the first 63" walk through sleeper. This was in late 1977. The first published option of the rectangular headlamps was in 1979/80. The Successors/379 family debuted in late '86 with their own quad rectangular lamps with the turn signal molded on, along with their own large rectangular single lamps. The only round lamps available were for the 6x6 357/378 that had the FEPTO bumper option. Those lamps were available until '07, being replaced with recessed into the bumper quad rectangular lamps. The AMT Peterbilt 359 current reissue dates to 1975/76. The kit represents a 1975 359. The Revell/Monogram 359 is no older than 1981/82. The Revell of Germany 359 is no older than an '82. Tim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim B Posted October 24, 2009 Share Posted October 24, 2009 That's good information, Tim. I thought the Revell/Monogran Peterbitl 359 was an 1986. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buba39 Posted October 24, 2009 Author Share Posted October 24, 2009 thanks yall tim as allways dude you rock Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mountaindewd Posted October 24, 2009 Share Posted October 24, 2009 Tim, Do you have a pic of Big Mamoo? I don't think I have ever seen it. BTW, since you have been to Texas, I guess you can officially be called "dude" Les Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mackinac359 Posted October 24, 2009 Share Posted October 24, 2009 Les, I don't have the proper hat or boots. Big Mamoo - Note: Big Mamoo (engineering dep't nickname) was the 1st with a 63" sleeper and the only one with a suicide right hand door. When Mamoo was sold to Denver Peterbilt, the rectangular headlamps were removed and quad rounds were installed. Tim Tim, Do you have a pic of Big Mamoo? I don't think I have ever seen it. BTW, since you have been to Texas, I guess you can officially be called "dude" Les Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Albion Posted October 24, 2009 Share Posted October 24, 2009 Tim, Just a couple of observations regarding "Big Mamoo" in the last photo. The first is it looks superb! There is only one cover on one of the air horns and the wind shield wipers look odd to?? Also the air cleaners, I don't think I have seen any in that style before?? The two trucks either side of Big Mamoo are of interest. Did Peterbilt do anything with the 352 at that time to coincide with the introduction of Big Mamoo. From the photo it looks like they had the 352 painted as a matched pair Is the 352 an H model it looks quite tall? The little window yellow 359 on the left looks in immaculate condition. Was this the Dealers truck or a very carefull customer's. Best Regards Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murphy's Law Posted October 24, 2009 Share Posted October 24, 2009 Looks very similar to my current ride (2002 379) - back window and all. Course, mine has a little more chrome... I didn't think I'd like a flat top, but I really do. For one driver, it has all the room I will ever need. Plus it looks cool as hell. Only downfall is the mileage. I was getting 6.5mpg in my 387, now only getting 4.5mpg. Might also have something to do with a 550hp Caterpillar ungoverned motor... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mackinac359 Posted October 24, 2009 Share Posted October 24, 2009 Dave Mamoo didn't have an official companion, but that 352H beside it shares the colors and similar paint scheme. Mamoo's missing snow cap on the horn must have occurred in transit to the dealer. The air cleaners are just chromed small tanks with big caps on them. The same caps in the Revell/Monogram 359. The windshield wipers are simply parked "wrong." You could park the air operated wipers anywhere you wanted. Typically Peterbilt will find a customer before creating a custom truck. The customer or dealer might have been the one to wanted the big sleeper, so they designed it. Early production of the 63" roof had a molded in Peterbilt logo at the center of the sides of the roof. This only lasted for a short time as the mold created problems for the fiberglass and required extra time to clean up and smooth the logo. This feature was removed from the mold. Tim Tim, Just a couple of observations regarding "Big Mamoo" in the last photo. The first is it looks superb! There is only one cover on one of the air horns and the wind shield wipers look odd to?? Also the air cleaners, I don't think I have seen any in that style before?? The two trucks either side of Big Mamoo are of interest. Did Peterbilt do anything with the 352 at that time to coincide with the introduction of Big Mamoo. From the photo it looks like they had the 352 painted as a matched pair Is the 352 an H model it looks quite tall? The little window yellow 359 on the left looks in immaculate condition. Was this the Dealers truck or a very carefull customer's. Best Regards Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buba39 Posted October 24, 2009 Author Share Posted October 24, 2009 Dave Mamoo didn't have an official companion, but that 352H beside it shares the colors and similar paint scheme. Mamoo's missing snow cap on the horn must have occurred in transit to the dealer. The air cleaners are just chromed small tanks with big caps on them. The same caps in the Revell/Monogram 359. The windshield wipers are simply parked "wrong." You could park the air operated wipers anywhere you wanted. Typically Peterbilt will find a customer before creating a custom truck. The customer or dealer might have been the one to wanted the big sleeper, so they designed it. Early production of the 63" roof had a molded in Peterbilt logo at the center of the sides of the roof. This only lasted for a short time as the mold created problems for the fiberglass and required extra time to clean up and smooth the logo. This feature was removed from the mold. Tim chris thats a sweet looking truck tim you rock i am glad that we have you onbord as our pete expert now i got to do recerch for my ford l 9000 whats the odds we have a expert inhouse??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Albion Posted October 25, 2009 Share Posted October 25, 2009 Tim, Many Thanks for the reply. That 352H looks superb and with Big Mamoo will become a definate build for the future. I just need to check on the Winslow stripes? Hey Murphey's Law that is a superb looking Pete! Do you recon the difference in MPG is due to the Streamlining or your heavy right foot? Best Regards Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murphy's Law Posted October 25, 2009 Share Posted October 25, 2009 (edited) Probably a wee bit of both. If I'm on the big road, it's usually set at 75, but it's nice to have more pedal to get out and around when I do need to pass.. Edited October 25, 2009 by Murphy's Law Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buba39 Posted October 25, 2009 Author Share Posted October 25, 2009 Murphey's Law u got to come out to syarcuse some time so my daughter and i can see that beautyfull truck of yours she is in to trucks about as much as i am she is building her frist truck model a revell snaper 359 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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