jeffb Posted October 29, 2009 Posted October 29, 2009 any kits have a decent i beam setup? i need it for my 66 f100 project. 2wd prefered
modeltrucker Posted October 29, 2009 Posted October 29, 2009 the revelle f 350 dually,amt 70's ford truck models and amt 90's f150s all have decent twin I beams.
Eshaver Posted October 29, 2009 Posted October 29, 2009 I would say that the F-350 and the F-150 Supercab truck models that came from Monogram , then Revell are decent . Finding a re-issued F-350 dually may be difficult as they generally got built to display with big trailers . Ed Shaver
modeltrucker Posted October 29, 2009 Posted October 29, 2009 For the reissue from revell I believe it is a 91 f250
modeltrucker Posted October 29, 2009 Posted October 29, 2009 Yeah Mark, I think they are reissuing it. I really wish they would give us a modern heavy duty,but you already knew that. The '70's AMT Ford trucks did come with seperate I-Beams and IIRC,the metal axle goes through the coil springs. '79 was the last year of the true I-Beam front end. '80 actually began a C shaped beam that was a big improvement because they had an adjustment at the king pin to adjust camber. '80 was also the year the TTB began for the 4X4s. The '79 and earlier 2wd F-100s had to have the I-Beams bent to adjust camber. but are they not still twin I beams with ball joints instead of king pins?
Chuck Most Posted October 29, 2009 Posted October 29, 2009 Roger, did those 70s AMT Ford truck kits have seperate I Beam front ends? I never built one or saw a built one back in the day, so I always thought the front end was molded to the chassis like the AMT 67-72 Chevy trucks. If they are seperate parts, (& I really don't know, thus the question), that would be the way to go, provided one could be found. The Model King repop of the '79 F-350 came with a 2wd twin I beam setup, though it wasn't called out in the instructions. You get the twin I beams (molded together, in front and back halfs to trap a typical AMT metal axle), the radius rods, steering link, and rotor/caliper castings. Not the most accurate rendition of the setup you'll ever see, but very workable. I can't say if the other '70's AMT Ford F-series kits had this setup included, but the MK and even the Bigfoot kit with the '79 body included the vestigial I-beam parts. Though not entirely accurate, the parts are 'dumbed down' enough to where they should work in a '60's Effie. Heck, a '64 F-100 I-beam is almost indistinguishable from a '94 F-350 I-beam, anyway! In scale, only the fussiest of detail freaks would even notice. Yeah, Mark, I know I'm not this Roger dude, but I hope my little rambling there helped ya anyway! I've owned several Ford trucks, and while the twin I beam is quite robust, it sure likes to eat tires! My old '81 has the 'Traction Beams' that is, twin I beams with a differential... and it was suspended by leaf springs! An odd setup, but it worked beautifully! I think the 2wd Super Duties still use the Twin I beam setup, or at least they did up to the 2004 re-hash.
jeffb Posted October 30, 2009 Author Posted October 30, 2009 no need to donate body parts, just cash! im pretty close to having this ready to cast. the chassis is the big hold up. the body is coming along.
randx0 Posted October 30, 2009 Posted October 30, 2009 I think the amt and mpc ford vans had that setup .
Eshaver Posted October 30, 2009 Posted October 30, 2009 Randy, ALL ECONOLINES from 1969 had the I - Beam set up . I should outta know I owned a business that manufactured Van accessories and I have owned Four 1969 and 1970 Ford Vans , two 78 Ford Vans an 83 Ford Window van and almost bought a 90 model . Ed Shaver
jeffb Posted October 31, 2009 Author Posted October 31, 2009 this is what im after. ive seen the modern setup..not really the same
randx0 Posted November 1, 2009 Posted November 1, 2009 here's a couple of pictures of the amt(white) and mpc(black) I beams from the van kits I think the AMT may be the ticket . hope these are helpful.
jeffb Posted November 1, 2009 Author Posted November 1, 2009 thats what im talkin about! perfect.. thanks randy, and i just got sniped on an amt van...but now i know what to look for]
randx0 Posted November 2, 2009 Posted November 2, 2009 Thanx for those pix Randy. I had never seen the setup from the vans. Those AMT I-Beams are very correct looking. I wish that setup had been in their pickups. I may have to pick up one of those old vans. Which kit specifically was this setup in? pretty much any of the ford vans cuckoos nest ,disco van , etc. the black ones are from the mpc juke box van just so you don't have to buy that one and be disappointed although I like the mpc over the amt I think it looks better overall . and avoid the revell vans because they suck .
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