Ford motor gurus

[Aaronw]

I'm looking for some alternatives to power a Ford C cab.

The kit comes with the Ford SD motor, made just for big trucks, but the lighter models had smaller engines.

From '57 to 63 they used a Y block displacing 272, 302 and 332 cubic inches. This was based on the on Ford cars Y block of the mid 50s.

I am assuming the difference in displacement is well within a simple change in bore so no external change?

It appears that I can get the appropriate motor from AMT's '56/57 Ford Victoria or their '57 Thunderbird. Any other kits I might find a donor from?

From '64 on they used a beefed up version of the FE engine. It was available with 330, 361 or 391 cubic inch displacement. Again I assume this is within the range of the standard block?

It looks like I can get this engine out of AMT's 1960 Starliner and maybe one of the late 60s Mustangs (390 is an FE block?) any other possibilities?

I realize some of the add ons (carb, aircleaner etc) may be different.

Finally, does anyone know of a Ford 300 cid I-6 in 1/25? Plastic, resin, diecast?

Thanks

[Eshaver]

Arron , I think Ken Kitchen was working on a 300 six. I went and took a 235 from a Chevrolet and then modified the intake and exaust to work on the opposite side . See, the physical size of those blocks were nearly identical in scale . As to building the valve cover , I took a block of EverGreen strip and made a valve cover . I have the factory shop manuals going back to 1957 on the C O E's let me know what exactly you need as I can copy out and mail the stuff to you . I used to drive a 72 Ford C-600 with a Catipiliar engine in it so the differences are minimal .

Sorry I didn't have the aircleaner off , if nessesary I can reshoot the motor and show it to you that way . Ed Shaver

[Aaronw]

Dave I've got the Starliner and that issue of the '56 Ford truck, Thanks I'll look them both over.

Ed, I knew you did the small Ford trucks, I didn't know you did the big stuff too. If you have shop manuals I will put together a list of info I'm after and see what you can come up with, thanks.

I got my class B license in a 1971 Ford C fire engine with a Cat in it so I am rather fond of the trucks too.

[Ben]

I think the Cat 3208 from any AMT Ford L series kit would be a good choice to put in the C cab. I just wish someone would master a nice turbo setup for it!

Also, being that we are discussing the C cab, Harold Weber in Germany as made an unbelieveable photo etch set to be used with that cab!!!!!

It featrues two piece, overlay vents that go just behind the doors, the dashboard, all the emblems to make a C800, windshield wipers, foot pedals, a drilling template for placing the "F O R D" letters on the front of the cab and the wing window frames.

I have posted several pictures on the Yahoo, Model Truck Discussion Group for those interested.

[camaroman]

I think the Cat 3208 from any AMT Ford L series kit would be a good choice to put in the C cab. I just wish someone would master a nice turbo setup for it!

Also, being that we are discussing the C cab, Harold Weber in Germany as made an unbelieveable photo etch set to be used with that cab!!!!!

It featrues two piece, overlay vents that go just behind the doors, the dashboard, all the emblems to make a C800, windshield wipers, foot pedals, a drilling template for placing the "F O R D" letters on the front of the cab and the wing window frames.

I have posted several pictures on the Yahoo, Model Truck Discussion Group for those interested.

Ben, could you PM the link to that Yahoo group for the pics...

Thanks glenn

[tabsscale1]

Don loomis also does a Ford 6 Cylinder

http://my.inbox.com/photos/escort500xl/index.aspx

[Aaronw]

Thanks,for the additional info, I missed some of the later posts.

I've got another motor to ask about, apparently in the late 70s the C-series had another motor change when a 370 and 429 replaced most of the gas engines. From what I can find this is the "385" motor and would be the same as the 460 from the Ford F-350 dually kit. Would it also be the same 429 used in some of the late 60s / early 70s Mustangs?

Thanks

[OneTrickPony]

Thanks,for the additional info, I missed some of the later posts.

I've got another motor to ask about, apparently in the late 70s the C-series had another motor change when a 370 and 429 replaced most of the gas engines. From what I can find this is the "385" motor and would be the same as the 460 from the Ford F-350 dually kit. Would it also be the same 429 used in some of the late 60s / early 70s Mustangs?

Thanks

The basic design is the same in this engine family but there are lots of visual differences in the exteriors due to the different natures of their usage. The car versions had smaller air cleaner housings, different belt systems, etc, while the truck versions had governors, different exhaust manifolds, larger crankshaft snouts, etc.

The car version would be a good start but would require a lot of fabrication to make it look like a true truck engine, if that is what you are asking.

Edited November 13, 2009 by OneTrickPony

[Aaronw]

Ok, so the block would work from a 429 in a car, but the rest would need work. I assume the 460 in the dually would be the best option then.

Thanks

[bigphoto]

Ok, so the block would work from a 429 in a car, but the rest would need work. I assume the 460 in the dually would be the best option then.

Thanks

As a base 429 use the one from the Revell 70 Torino kits as it very nice.