Harry P. Posted May 2, 2010 Posted May 2, 2010 Notice how the forum is broken down into specific sections? That's done for a reason... to make it easier to find certain topics. For example, NASCAR builds would go in the NASCAR section, large scale would go in the BIG BOYZ section, and so on. Seems awfully logical, right? But lately a lot of you guys have been posting trucks in the CAR section. Notice that we have a section called TRUCKS. If your post concerns model TRUCKS, please post in the TRUCK section. I would think that that's self-explanatory, but apparently it isn't registering with a lot of people. I've had to move several truck posts from CARS to TRUCKS. Let's pay a little more attention and try to post in the right area.
AMT Pacemakers Posted May 2, 2010 Posted May 2, 2010 So, drag racing WIP's go under Dragracing or Whats on the bench??? Please don't shoot me, just wondering out loud. Thanks CCSS
Harry P. Posted May 2, 2010 Author Posted May 2, 2010 So, drag racing WIP's go under Dragracing or Whats on the bench??? Please don't shoot me, just wondering out loud. Thanks CCSS I admit that sometimes a post could fit in more than one area. All I can say is use common sense. If what you're posting fits into a specific area, put it there. If your WIP is a drag car, seems to me it would go in the DRAG section... wouldn't it? And if the model kit you're posting about says TRUCK on the box cover in huge letters, like one of the posts I moved, that would be a clue that it should be posted in the TRUCK section. Nobody is going to get in trouble for posting in the wrong spot... I just want you guys to think a little before you post, so I don't have to constantly be moving stuff around and then getting PMs asking me why a post "disappeared."
Jared Roach Posted May 2, 2010 Posted May 2, 2010 Well under glass and on the bench dosen't say "cars ONLY". I mean I know your trying to keep the forum organized, but for the time I have been here, no one had a problem with it till now. I NEVER check the truck section, because it's near the bottom and I'm not interested in the big rigs. These are pick ups, I just don't think that it's a good idea, because I don't want to put my builds in a catorgory for big rigs, because they are completly different. I do understand what yourr getting at though.
RodneyBad Posted May 2, 2010 Posted May 2, 2010 So just for clarification. Just so I can Understand you better. A Pick-up is a Truck (i.e. Ford F-150, Chevy 1500)and should be put in the Truck section where people who build Trucks like Frieghtliners, PeterBilts, Kenworth, Big Rigs and Other Tractors?
Harry P. Posted May 2, 2010 Author Posted May 2, 2010 This doesn't make any sense to me. If we have a section for trucks, nascar, etc. Then why do we have an on the workbench section and under glass section? If you look at how the site is arranged, the Workbench and Under Glass are sub-sections of the MODEL CARS section. The forum is broken down into these main sections: MODEL CARS (obviously this section has the most sub-sections... after all this is the Model CARS site). MODEL NEWS ASK MODEL CARS CONTESTS AND SHOWS MODEL TRUCKS (WIPS, finished models, anything model truck or model truck related) LINKS, ADVERTISERS, WEB SITES MODEL CAR RACING.
Harry P. Posted May 2, 2010 Author Posted May 2, 2010 These are pick ups, I just don't think that it's a good idea, because I don't want to put my builds in a catorgory for big rigs, because they are completly different. The section is called MODEL TRUCKS. Nowhere does it say BIG RIGS ONLY.
LUKE'57 Posted May 2, 2010 Posted May 2, 2010 Sorry Harry, I guess you're talking about me. When I post in Nascar I hardly ever get a response or many hits but when I put it in General I get way more. Don't know whether my stuff fits Nascar, General, Photo Manipulation or what but I do know I enjoy getting on here and visiting with you guys. Not sure exactly what to do now. I don't do all those color and parts changes that marks a lot of the Photo Manipulation catagory and I don't really fit in with the "jelly bean" Nascars either. I thought "general" was a sort of anything goes kind of catagory. Again, sorry for overstepped the bounds.
Harry P. Posted May 2, 2010 Author Posted May 2, 2010 So just for clarification. Just so I can Understand you better. A Pick-up is a Truck (i.e. Ford F-150, Chevy 1500)and should be put in the Truck section where people who build Trucks like Frieghtliners, PeterBilts, Kenworth, Big Rigs and Other Tractors? Yes. A pickup truck is a pickup TRUCK, not a pickup CAR.
Harry P. Posted May 2, 2010 Author Posted May 2, 2010 Sorry Harry, I guess you're talking about me. When I post in Nascar I hardly ever get a response or many hits but when I put it in General I get way more. Don't know whether my stuff fits Nascar, General, Photo Manipulation or what but I do know I enjoy getting on here and visiting with you guys. Not sure exactly what to do now. I don't do all those color and parts changes that marks a lot of the Photo Manipulation catagory and I don't really fit in with the "jelly bean" Nascars either. I thought "general" was a sort of anything goes kind of catagory. Again, sorry for overstepped the bounds. Yours is one of those "gray areas"... your stuff could go in NASCAR (that's where it should go, after all, your models are NASCAR models!), but it also sort of fits in the GENERAL category, and even under AUTO ART, I guess. There are going to be cases where there is some overlap. But sometimes it's painfully obvious, like the model TRUCKS that people refuse to post in the MODEL TRUCKS section! Like I said, we segment the site to make it easy to find particular subjects. The whole point is to make it easier for you members to find what you're interested in, and if everyone ignores how the site is broken down and just posts wherever they feel like posting, we might as well forget the whole idea of order and run a crazy "stream of consciousness" mess like some other sites do.
diymirage Posted May 2, 2010 Posted May 2, 2010 Notice how the forum is broken down into specific sections? That's done for a reason... to make it easier to find certain topics. For example, NASCAR builds would go in the NASCAR section, large scale would go in the BIG BOYZ section, and so on. Seems awfully logical, right? But lately a lot of you guys have been posting trucks in the CAR section. Notice that we have a section called TRUCKS. If your post concerns model TRUCKS, please post in the TRUCK section. I would think that that's self-explanatory, but apparently it isn't registering with a lot of people. I've had to move several truck posts from CARS to TRUCKS. Let's pay a little more attention and try to post in the right area. so if i have a work in progress i should put it in the "workbench" section ? where would i put a rant about people posting in the wrong section ? in the general or in the rants and raves just janking your chain harry i think you guys do a great job moderating the forum and ive told you that before but you left yourself wide open for this one
JamesW Posted May 2, 2010 Posted May 2, 2010 So where would an El Camino go? It's techinacally a truck, yet most consider it a car.
Harry P. Posted May 2, 2010 Author Posted May 2, 2010 Just MHO, but I don't believe light truck models should go in the "Model Trucks" section. I think that should be for big rigs only. That's the way it is at contests, where are there are two separate and distinct classes for those two different types of vehicles _ light commercial and heavy commercial. That's also the way it is in the mags. You don't see Tim Ahlborn or Evan Hermel writing about light trucks in their respective columns. Light trucks should continue to be posted in "Under Glass," or, in the alternative, a separate "Light Commercial" category should be created for them. And, while I'm at it, the name of the NASCAR subcategory needs to be edited to read simply "NASCAR" and NOT "NASCARs." There are no such thing as "NASCARs" and it gets under my skin to no end when I hear or see that. NASCAR is the name of the sanctioning body. The cars that are raced in it are "Sprint Cup cars" or "Nationwide Series cars." You wouldn't refer to top-fuel dragsters or funny cars as "NHRAs," would you? Or the cars that run in the Indy 500 as "IRLs?" Actually, I think a better better name for this category would be "Circle Track Racers." That way, it could be used for not only NASCAR race cars, but for ASA cars, modifieds and even open-wheel racers like sprint cars and midgets. Makes sense, no? I didn't create the site categories... I'm just trying to keep things running smoothly. I agree with you, there is no such thing as "NASCARS"... and I also agree that we shouldn't have a NASCAR category in the first place, but a "Circle Track" category... or maybe Circle Track/Road Racing or something along those lines, so that we would have both major types of competition cars covered–straight line (drag) and track/road course (NASCAR, F1, Rally, etc.) Hey, if it was up to me I'd break down the categories very differently...I would have a "Competition" category broken down into sub-sections including NASCAR and the rest. But no matter how you break it down there's always going to be overlap. All I ask is to use your best judgement and post accordingly, based on the categories we DO have in place.
showbuilder Posted May 2, 2010 Posted May 2, 2010 i think it would be nice to have a section for pick ups only. this battle comes up all the time at contests also. i do not feel that pick ups belong in with the big rigs. i understand that the header says trucks, but this section is dominated by heavy commercial builds. it's not fair for pick up guys to have to wade through posts that really don't interest them. same goes for us commercial builders, we don't want to see a bunch of unrelated posts to what we build. not trying to start trouble, just offering my view on the matter. hope no one takes offense.
Terror Posted May 2, 2010 Posted May 2, 2010 I noticed my '29 ford truck got moved.I don't care,but you really can't haul anything other than mybe your wallet with this thing.So,on the workbench is for cars?I thought it was for any auto in general,non commercial, still being glued and painted?Just wondering,I'm cool with whatever.
sjordan2 Posted May 2, 2010 Posted May 2, 2010 (edited) While I have zero interest in trucks, drag cars, NASCAR models, etc., I still check out those sections because you can find outstanding work to enjoy, plus new tips and info on resources that help model car builds. True, some posts are difficult to categorize, such as the "Rommel's Rod" thread, but it mostly takes just a little judgement. What I'm saying is, despite my primary interests, I don't overlook the other sections. By the same token, it's helpful to check out other sites that offer amazing and useful insights into building aircraft, armor and boats, among other subjects. One more thought – scaleautomag.com does not have specific categories such as MCM's "on the workbench" or "under glass"; it's up to the forum member to identify the status of a build in the title of the thread – for example, in "factory stock," you will see titles such as "59 Eldorado WIP," or "'65 Shelby Cobra FINISHED." A lot of threads on this forum need to have more specific titles anyway. Doesn't seem too hard to me. Edited May 2, 2010 by sjordan2
Harry P. Posted May 2, 2010 Author Posted May 2, 2010 Like I said, I'd break down things differently... but I have to work with what's currently in place. If we have a TRUCKS section, seems to me that TRUCKS should be posted there. Ideally we would have TRUCKS broken down into Pickups/Light Commercial and Big Rigs/Heavy Commercial... but we don't.
MikeMc Posted May 2, 2010 Posted May 2, 2010 Where should this one go.....not much "truck" left after the zona...... I built a Rod....
Harry P. Posted May 2, 2010 Author Posted May 2, 2010 I noticed my '29 ford truck got moved.I don't care,but you really can't haul anything other than mybe your wallet with this thing.So,on the workbench is for cars?I thought it was for any auto in general,non commercial, still being glued and painted?Just wondering,I'm cool with whatever. Right now "Under Glass" and "On the Workbench" are subsections of the MODEL CARS forum. We should also have those sections in the TRUCK category, but we don't. As I said, I didn't create the way the site is arranged, I'm just trying to work with what we currently have in place.
Harry P. Posted May 2, 2010 Author Posted May 2, 2010 Where should this one go.....not much "truck" left after the zona...... I built a Rod.... Like I said... there are cases where things are not clear cut. Use your best judgement. Nobody is going to get in trouble for posting in the wrong spot... I just want people to use common sense and post where it makes the most sense.
Jared Roach Posted May 2, 2010 Posted May 2, 2010 i think it would be nice to have a section for pick ups only. this battle comes up all the time at contests also. i do not feel that pick ups belong in with the big rigs. i understand that the header says trucks, but this section is dominated by heavy commercial builds. it's not fair for pick up guys to have to wade through posts that really don't interest them. same goes for us commercial builders, we don't want to see a bunch of unrelated posts to what we build. not trying to start trouble, just offering my view on the matter. hope no one takes offense. I agree 100% and Harry I know that it dosen't say big rigs, but what is in there, big rigs 99% of the time.
Terror Posted May 2, 2010 Posted May 2, 2010 Thats a truck Mike,nice.Should they be reworded like 29 ford Street rod?Cause theres an S10 in the workbench area.Sorry to narc ya out,man.LOL.Just worded different,but we know its a truck.
Harry P. Posted May 2, 2010 Author Posted May 2, 2010 Guys, this post wasn't meant to cause a huge problem... it was meant to SOLVE a problem, as I have gotten PMs from people complaining about people posting in the wrong places. All I want you to do is use common sense and try to post in the right place. If you can't figure out what the right place is, post where you think it should go. This isn't a major big deal, just a suggestion to make things easier for people to find.
MikeeD Posted May 2, 2010 Posted May 2, 2010 Far be it for me to tell you guys how to run your site...But..( here's the infamous but ) it sounds to me from what I'm reading here that perhaps we need more classification breakdowns for the "grey area" builds. Or maybe a Misc. section for those in question. Personally, I think you guys do a fantastic job of providing a cool site for us to express ourselves, model wise. And I for one, am really thankful to find a site as well moderated as this one. So, if I post in the wrong place, remember, I have " Old-Timers"...or at least I think I do, I don't remember...
sjordan2 Posted May 2, 2010 Posted May 2, 2010 Seems to me we could have at least a couple of more categories that put similar approaches together, such as "Rods & Customs," which would accommodate any type of road vehicle with that description, car or truck.
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