White 9000

[The Modeling Hermit]

I'm starting a build of a White 9000 using the White Road Boss for the cab and chassis. I'm using a resin cab, fenders, grill, and bumper that I got on line. What do I have to do to make these changes? I'm thinking about a very short eastern style truck; possibly Dorhn Transfer.

[Jim B]

I thought the 4000 had the short hood & the 9000 had the long hood.

[mistermodel]

Have you seen this?

White 9000

Try Hanks for the pictures, the 4000 has a longer hood but same cab

Doug,that will be nice.The above link is great ,but for some reason the interior shot is a brockway.

I like the red one here,it is a fine example of what you have in mind

http://cgi.ebay.com/1966-White-4000-9000-Tractor-Truck-Prestige-Brochure-/350383469716?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item51947b7494

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http://cgi.ebay.com/1966-White-4000-9000-Tractor-Truck-Brochure-/290461647341?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item43a0dd01ed

[The Modeling Hermit]

Thanks for all of the information and pictures. I started with Hanks Truck Pictures site, but as usual, I got caught up in all of the pictures, and had spent over two hours without ever looking at what I went there for. I've been hoping to find some pictures of the engine area to see what changes were made to allow the shorter hood.

[SpreadAxle]

Doug, with short hood trucks like this the engine tended to protrude into the cab with a mini doghouse under the dashboard. Just think about your Chevy/Ford passenger vans and the way the engine invades the space between the seats.

Also, little guys like this one dictated your engine options. If you use the Cummins engine, it will be the naturally aspirated version(If you have a copy of Phil Jensen's Buidling Model trucks, you will see a Cummins powered White 4000, but it will be a helpful pair of pix). Also, the Detroit 6-71 would be another. I saw one of these in person when I went to Diesel school. It was a 9000 with a 6-71 and you could see it was "shoe-horned" under the hood. I believe the engine may have been slightly cocked to one side to help it fit. Remember, these will have lower horsepower engines. 250 hp average, not some big 350HP Largecar(lol, that was big power when these White 9000s were new.) You could go with a V block Detroit also. Not sure if you could use a V8, though, but a v6 should fit easily.

[The Modeling Hermit]

Doug, with short hood trucks like this the engine tended to protrude into the cab with a mini doghouse under the dashboard. Just think about your Chevy/Ford passenger vans and the way the engine invades the space between the seats.

Also, little guys like this one dictated your engine options. If you use the Cummins engine, it will be the naturally aspirated version(If you have a copy of Phil Jensen's Buidling Model trucks, you will see a Cummins powered White 4000, but it will be a helpful pair of pix). Also, the Detroit 6-71 would be another. I saw one of these in person when I went to Diesel school. It was a 9000 with a 6-71 and you could see it was "shoe-horned" under the hood. I believe the engine may have been slightly cocked to one side to help it fit. Remember, these will have lower horsepower engines. 250 hp average, not some big 350HP Largecar(lol, that was big power when these White 9000s were new.) You could go with a V block Detroit also. Not sure if you could use a V8, though, but a v6 should fit easily.

Ray

I just found a copy of that book through Abe Books. I used to have a copy, which I thought must have been in the storage unit, but I can't find it. It never hurts to have two copies if I do find it.

[SpreadAxle]

Ray

I just found a copy of that book through Abe Books. I used to have a copy, which I thought must have been in the storage unit, but I can't find it. It never hurts to have two copies if I do find it.

Those 2 pix are on page 44. It is, in fact, a White 9000 with an NH 250 stuffed under it's nose.

[SpreadAxle]

Doug,

You might find this interesting, it's a wrecker with a Cummins motor "stuffed" between the frame rails.

White 9000 wrecker

You're not kidding about it being "stuffed" in there. The fuel pump is pretty much under the firewall. At least 3 cylinders are buried. Doing an overhead adjustment would be a pain, but this is what mechanics dealt with on trucks like this b4 extended hoods became so common.

[The Modeling Hermit]

Doug,

You might find this interesting, it's a wrecker with a Cummins motor "stuffed" between the frame rails.

White 9000 wrecker

Those are some excellent pictures, not only of the truck, but of the wrecker body also.