Help needed on Reference Pics of Mounting rear Dual wheels on Rig

[eviltwincustoms]

I am looking for a reference pic of how the rear dual wheels are mounted on a Rig.. I don't drive or have never broke down a real wheel so I am oblivious to how they are mounted.

With the 1/16th I would like to know do they really have a ring that mounts to the front and back wheels? And I would assume that the Fronts are the mirror image of the rears or are they actually different?

Thanks for any reference pics you can provide.

I appreciate it!

[highway]

Ok Bart, I have to get this out of my system, they mount with lug nuts!!! :lol:

Now that the bad joke is out of the way, at least for modern rigs, they mount the same as these wheels I have on my Ford F350. These are Budd 4 hole wheels and are just downsized versions of the big rig steel wheels, and obviously this is the front one.

The rear duals are the same as the front, just as any big rig wheel can be used in any position. This is not the greatest pic, but here is the rear set.

I'd get you a better pic, but the weather is not nice and it's almost dark here anyway!

If you notice on the front wheel pic, the area is raised from the rest of the rim around the lug nuts. This surface is all that contacts each other in the rear set, and as you might be able to see in this (not again the greatest) pic, that area of the outer wheel is not raised like the front or the inner rear, but sunken in.

The wheels of a rig are mostly the same, even though the area around the lug nuts may not be shaped exactly the same as my smaller wheels. They still all mount the same way though, with an area around the lug nuts contacting each other.

As for the rings, I'm guessing you might either be talking about the old "widow maker" wheels with the ring around the outer rim or talking about the spacer between the inner and outer wheels on a Webb style spoked wheel. You have me a little confused with "front and back" knowing you said that you never drove, so I don't know if you mean the steer tires (front) and duals (rear) or actually the individual tires themselves meaning the front as the outer wheel and the rear as the inner wheel on a set of duals. Actually either way, I might be able to help with pics of both, because there just happens to be an old Freuhauf round nosed reefer from maybe the 50s or 60s sitting just outside my house!

[eviltwincustoms]

Thanks Matthew for the pics... and I deserved that one...

Ok so the Monogram model is way out of scale then when that use that crappy ring that connects from the front to the rear 1/2 section of the wheel. I figured they lug bolts held them together, but wondered how that ring played any part is any at all on the 1:1.

Sorry for the confusion, never been around 1:1 Rigs and full size trucks with Dually's so forgive me ignorance. So specifically the back wheels is what I am referring to. In the model kits at least on the 1/16 Pete and Ken trucks the Chrome Outer rim and black inner rim are then held together with a black like spacer ring. I expect this is just to make it easier for the tires to stay on and due to how the model is made since it doesn't run actual Hubs.

I appreciate you helping out a novice in this area... I can tell I have a lot of research ahead of me in this up and coming build.

[highway]

Yep, I just checked out the Drastic Plastic's instruction site and looked at the instructions for the KW (surprised I even found them, but that site is great! ) and seen exactly what you were talking about. The ring for those duals are actually serving two purposes, giving more or less an outer rim bead for both wheels and, just like you said, also to mount both wheels since only the inner wheel actually connects to the axle. On an actual 1:1, that piece would not exist, but if you want to make the wheels more like 1:1, you would have to make another bead rim like the ones already molded into the wheels. It's been 20+ years since I had the KW Aerodyne kit, but from the way the pic on the instructions look, you could use the center area of the rear duals as mounting surfaces and eliminate the nonexistant ring between the inner and outer wheels. It also appears that you would be able to use the front steer wheel as a guide to making sure the rear wheels are the proper width and to help add the missing bead rim on each wheel.

[highway]

Oh, and don't worry, that's one thing I enjoy is to help others out. I spent 11 1/2 years driving these things, not to mention being under them when I was driving heavy duty wrecker!