pete3522 Posted March 16, 2012 Posted March 16, 2012 (edited) http://http://http://http://http://http://This is a old western star i got in a parts lot that im going to work on this weekend. not sure if i want to keep it old school or heavy haul ,sleepr or day cab. So figure i would get some opinions on here and maybe some photos of your western stars.I am not sure if i like the paint that may go, Remember this is mock up right now. Short wheel base or frame stretch??? I have the cummins thats suppose to go in it and the road ranger tranny i believe it is??not sure Edited March 19, 2012 by pete3522
drinkone2 Posted March 16, 2012 Posted March 16, 2012 Myself I prefer the old school look. It would look good as a tri-axle heavy haul day cab! Just my opinion..... Jim
pete3522 Posted March 16, 2012 Author Posted March 16, 2012 (edited) i am thinken day cab all the tractors i have right now have bunks .And heavy haul not sure if i should use spokes on the rear or chrome? kicken on the paint to not sure??This build im goin on you guys opinions then i will post mock up pics and finished product pics somethin different i decided to try on this build Edited March 16, 2012 by pete3522
BigBad Posted March 16, 2012 Posted March 16, 2012 daycab 3 rear axle, heavy hauler... With a custom twin turbo 12V71 Detroit and straight pipes!
pete3522 Posted March 16, 2012 Author Posted March 16, 2012 yeah im doin the 3 axle straight pipes i dont have 12vz1 i might have a 8v71 i was goin to do all chrome wheels but i goin with rear spokes
BigBad Posted March 16, 2012 Posted March 16, 2012 (edited) You're all set! But as much as I like these 2 stroke Detroits, I think if you're going to do some heavy lifting with this truck you might want to use another engine than the 8V71 unless it's heavily boosted and customized. There you go, make it a twin turbo 8V71! The 12 probably wouldn't have fitted under the hood anyway. Have fun with it! Oh, and spokes look tough! Edited March 16, 2012 by Z06Bob
pete3522 Posted March 17, 2012 Author Posted March 17, 2012 (edited) http://i1051.photobucket.com/albums/s430/pete3522/1974%20Western%20star/100_3043.jpg]http://http://well i decided to do a old school heavy haul tractor spokes in the rear chrome front i tried all chrome wheels didnt look right, I am goin to use the cummins and road ranger trans thought i had a 8v71 but think i used it in a alf fire engine but anyway my g/f liked the paint so i wet sanded it and cleared it, Made straight stacks with the 45 angle ,The 3 rd axle i am goin to make a tag that will lift up-down dual vortex air cleaners day cab short wheel base drop visor i might do a texas bumper and 7 cab lights it should be done by sunday will post the finished product pics Edited March 18, 2012 by pete3522
pete3522 Posted March 18, 2012 Author Posted March 18, 2012 (edited) K heres where i am at i kept the paint put about 4 coats of clear on today made some new fuel tanks the others were to long i tried chrome wheels the whole way around but it looks better with spokes in the rear i still have to setup the tag axle and make a battery box. i am going to use straight stacks and dual vortex air cleaners instead of the single square one and lubifiner and i am going to run full chrome rear fenders in the rear with the step up for the tag Edited March 18, 2012 by pete3522
pete3522 Posted March 18, 2012 Author Posted March 18, 2012 i dont know that i am wild about the paint on this or the short wheel base but i went on the few replies that i got and my g/f said leave the paint so i ran with it
pete3522 Posted March 18, 2012 Author Posted March 18, 2012 maybe after i dress this it will look ok seems like its missen somethin??????
lapazleo Posted March 18, 2012 Posted March 18, 2012 Actually the dd 12v71 would fit fine. Everybody seems to be under the misconception the 12v71 is a huge engine when in reality it's no longer than the ntc 350 Cummins the Western Star kit came with and the same width and heigth as the 8v71. Also 8v71s did do heavy work I've seen many pulling 11 axle Michigan road trains in the 60s and early 70s they just used gearing to do it. Either way great project keep on posting. PS just for the record the 12v71 was only 852 cubic inches.
Chris guthro Posted March 18, 2012 Posted March 18, 2012 id say only go tandem with that short of a wheel base, or make it just a life axle with matching tires and wheels to the front. or put about 2'' in the frame.
pete3522 Posted March 18, 2012 Author Posted March 18, 2012 (edited) ok i opened a photobucket acct pics are much better no more thumbnails or upload limits lol Edited March 18, 2012 by pete3522
Semi Trailer Mechanic Posted March 18, 2012 Posted March 18, 2012 http://http://http://http://http://http://This is a old western star i got in a parts lot that im going to work on this weekend. not sure if i want to keep it old school or heavy haul ,sleepr or day cab. So figure i would get some opinions on here and maybe some photos of your western stars.I am not sure if i like the paint that may go, Remember this is mock up right now. Short wheel base or frame stretch??? I have the cummins thats suppose to go in it and the road ranger tranny i believe it is??not sure Cool Project you've started here! If you're still open to opinions here's mine. Take the truck and strip the whole thing down to bare plastic and start w/ a blank canvas. Start by painting your chassis Tamiya semi gloss black. Next base coat your cab Tamiya gloss red. Using 1/4" wide masking tape wrap the hood/cab where you want the stripe to be. Start at the front of the hood instead of having that hook. ( Starting the stripe at the end just looks cleaner) Top coat the cab using Tamiya gloss black. Remove your tape when dry. Detail your interior either black or tan. Get rid of the lift axle all together. Clean up your fuel tanks and paint them w/ Model Master Aluminum Plate Metallizer. Wait over night and polish using tissue paper then top coat w/ flat clear. Metallizer paint will rub off unless sealed. Put your battery box behind the fuel tank on the drivers side. Use some budd rims for the drive axles painted gloss white. If you have the half length diamond plate fenders like those from the W900 kit use those and hang some half length mud flaps off the front and use regular flaps behind the rear drives.. Add a hydraulic oil tank behind the cab and a fitting for a hydraulic hose to screw on to. This is just my opinion... If I rebuild a model here's how I strip it. I don't bother breaking it down first. Unless you want the chrome pieces left. Leaving the tires on cleans them as well. This one I did a few years ago. I stand corrected "re did" http://www.flickr.com/photos/9495602@N02/2811683552/ Which ever direction you take this good luck!
pete3522 Posted March 18, 2012 Author Posted March 18, 2012 (edited) http://i1051.photobucket.com/albums/s430/pete3522/1974%20Western%20star/71A43B96-8620-4647-8C45-B9E76F7D6B63_8.jpg]http://you mean like this?http:// Edited March 18, 2012 by pete3522
Semi Trailer Mechanic Posted March 18, 2012 Posted March 18, 2012 (edited) Yeah something along the lines of that truck however it has the hydraulic hose plumbed into the diverter valve instead of the female quick connect. Here's a few trucks put stripes on in the past... W900 (wip pic) http://www.flickr.co...57605568421547/ Reo (wip pic) http://www.flickr.co...57623319274504/ GMC General http://www.flickr.co...57603834194789/ Edited March 18, 2012 by Semi Trailer Mechanic
pete3522 Posted March 18, 2012 Author Posted March 18, 2012 i am goin to change the wheels i am going to use the smaller chrome ones and do away with the tag chrome the whole wy around
BigBad Posted March 18, 2012 Posted March 18, 2012 Actually the dd 12v71 would fit fine. Everybody seems to be under the misconception the 12v71 is a huge engine when in reality it's no longer than the ntc 350 Cummins the Western Star kit came with and the same width and heigth as the 8v71. Also 8v71s did do heavy work I've seen many pulling 11 axle Michigan road trains in the 60s and early 70s they just used gearing to do it. Either way great project keep on posting. PS just for the record the 12v71 was only 852 cubic inches. Yeah, that's what I was thinking, since the 12V71 is actually like 2 six cylinder banks in a v shape, so it can't that much longer than a big Cummins or Cat 6. Maybe it would be the combination of lenght and width that would be the problem. Anyways, Craig doesn't have the 12. About the 8V71, what I read about it aften, is that it didn't have much torque... So you know, if I had big heavy duty stuff to pull I would have used the 12V71 or a Caterpillar 3408 or a Cummins KT.
pete3522 Posted March 18, 2012 Author Posted March 18, 2012 (edited) http://i1051.photobucket.com/albums/s430/pete3522/1974%20Western%20star/100_3046.jpg]http://i do have a 8v71 i bought for another project i could use But anyway i took out the tag placed the tanks under i uswed for mock up and placed one the straight stacks in place then i think i might swap the spokes out for chrome ???http:// Edited March 18, 2012 by pete3522
pete3522 Posted March 18, 2012 Author Posted March 18, 2012 heres a pic of a newer western starhttp://i1051.photobucket.com/albums/s430/pete3522/1974%20Western%20star/wester1.jpg]http://
pete3522 Posted March 18, 2012 Author Posted March 18, 2012 which tire size should i use? i thought it used the bigger style 22 i believe it is but i look at other pics and they use the smaller wheel and tire the 20s? igot the frame and the cab and hood in a parts lot the rest i had i think this same frame is used on the road boss???
pete3522 Posted March 19, 2012 Author Posted March 19, 2012 (edited) http://ok heres some updates made some changes added a stripe on the cab swap the spokes in the rear for chrome eliminated the tag just got done aligning the hood once the glue drys im goin to get back at ithttp:// Edited March 19, 2012 by pete3522
Truck parts Posted March 20, 2012 Posted March 20, 2012 Craig, That is looking good ,but I think the stack would look better on the right side of the truck
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