Ron Posted October 31, 2007 Posted October 31, 2007 I am attempting my first super detailed build.....have been wanting to for awhile now, and after really studying Dave T..and Clay K's builds..WOW, this should be interesting! My first question on this new territory I am attempting, is: I am wanting to construct my own roll bar..or atleast add to the kit roll bar, What size tubing do I need. I see .125, which is what I think I need, if I measuring it right...and then on the front Dave T has a support bar that he uses for the front bumper support..its a different size then the rest of the roll bar..look at his Pirates GP Nascar he just finished. Does anyone know what size I need for these 2 items..and once I get past that, I will ask more???! LOL Thanks in advance for anyones help. Ron
James W Posted November 3, 2007 Posted November 3, 2007 I'm not familiar with the two builds you refer to but maybe this will help. Multiply the measurement of the tube by the scale you are working in. Example; .125" x 24 is 3 inches in 1:24 scale. Evergreen has many sizes of tubing and other shapes in styrene at most hobby shops. Familiarize yourself with full size builds to see what size they use, then mix and match different size Evergreen to achieve the look. If these builders are on the forum, you can try to contact them dirrectly to see what they used.
bobss396 Posted November 4, 2007 Posted November 4, 2007 I use Evergreen stock almost exclusively. For roll cages, I'll either use .080 rod or .093 tubing, .125 is too big for most applications, I've never seen a 3.0" diameter roll cage bar. The neat thing about tubing is that it takes .035 rod up the middle which is great to join sections or peg it into a chassis or floor pan. I use floral wire (from crafts stores) which adds exceptional strength. I radius (fish mouth) the tubing with a small round file and join the pieces with Tenax or Proweld liguid glue. Lay out the roll bars on graph paper which is a big help to keep it squared up. With a little practice, you'll be a pro in no time. Good luck, Bob
Olle F Posted November 4, 2007 Posted November 4, 2007 Evergreen has many sizes of tubing and other shapes in styrene at most hobby shops. Familiarize yourself with full size builds to see what size they use, then mix and match different size Evergreen to achieve the look. If you use Evergreen, you can make it real easy on yourself. Evergreen (and other manufacturers) print the metric size on the bags, and as 1" = 25 mm (roughly), a 1" tube in 1:1 will be a 1 mm rod in 1:25, 2" tube will be 2 mm and so on. Then you get a metric ruler, calipers etc. and you're ready to convert anything to 1:25 scale the easy way.
Ron Posted November 6, 2007 Author Posted November 6, 2007 (edited) Thanks guys...I found the Evergreen display at my LHS, and was able to get the right sizing for all I need. Really great stuff to work with..so far I have the completed detailed chassis done on the 2006 Revell Monte Carlo, and its gone really well for my first super detailer. Now that I have all the bars figured out...now time for the braided hoses, and the proper sizes for each. Any one bought from Machined Alluminum Specialties before? I have been looking at the site for a few days now...also Pro Tech as well. Thanks guys for all the help and the tips!! Ron Edited November 6, 2007 by Ron
jamie Posted November 6, 2007 Posted November 6, 2007 Thanks guys...I found the Evergreen display at my LHS, and was able to get the right sizing for all I need. Really great stuff to work with..so far I have the completed detailed chassis done on the 2006 Revell Monte Carlo, and its gone really well for my first super detailer. Now that I have all the bars figured out...now time for the braided hoses, and the proper sizes for each. Any one bought from Machined Alluminum Specialties before? I have been looking at the site for a few days now...also Pro Tech as well. Thanks guys for all the help and the tips!! Ron Ron - MAS is awesome. Great stuff. You might want to look into Arrowhead Aluminum as well. I just got the rear supension kit from them on eBay. Pro Tech is top notch, Dave and Clay use him exclusively. I don't know if you were ever at the old BAD board, but I was the guy who built the detailed Quaker State Buick. If you have any questions, feel free to email me. jaycath04@comcast.net Maybe I can help you out.... Jamie
Ron Posted November 7, 2007 Author Posted November 7, 2007 Thanks a ton Jamie..I will give you a shout tomorrow, once I get home from work. I DO have some things to ask...I have the chassis all done up, but having problems finding some of the PE parts I need. I will also post some pics of the current progress I have..Thank-you for taking the time to help me out everyone. Ron
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