landman Posted January 26, 2015 Share Posted January 26, 2015 I remember seeing one of those resincasters' site which had load binders and hooks. I just went through all of what I had saved in my favorites without finding any. Tell me I didn't dream this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tesla Posted January 26, 2015 Share Posted January 26, 2015 I think you mean Ben Wicker's site:http://bwicke9.wix.com/class-a-resin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southpier Posted January 26, 2015 Share Posted January 26, 2015 Spaulding Trading used to have them in photoetch but they're no longer listed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdlbldrmatt135 Posted January 26, 2015 Share Posted January 26, 2015 Are you looking for the ratchet or the indirect style? I might be able to whip up some CAD models & put them on Shapeways within a week or so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landman Posted January 26, 2015 Author Share Posted January 26, 2015 I think you mean Ben Wicker's site:http://bwicke9.wix.com/class-a-resin That is one of those I loked at. No load binders there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landman Posted January 26, 2015 Author Share Posted January 26, 2015 Are you looking for the ratchet or the indirect style? I might be able to whip up some CAD models & put them on Shapeways within a week or so. If you mean by indirect a pair of arms with hooks at each end that close and snap together, then yes that it what I am looking for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdlbldrmatt135 Posted January 26, 2015 Share Posted January 26, 2015 (edited) If you mean by indirect a pair of arms with hooks at each end that close and snap together, then yes that it what I am looking for. Alright.... Edited January 26, 2015 by mdlbldrmatt135 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aaronw Posted January 26, 2015 Share Posted January 26, 2015 (edited) Alright.... I think you would do well with these, KFS' photo etch binders are the only ones I know of and there doesn't seem to be anybody stocking KFS in the US anymore. The only issue would be can you make them actually work or would they be completely static? That is a really nice feature of the KFS binders, you can really snug down your load pulling the slack out of your chains / ropes. If static people would have to find a way t pull things tight and secure it while attaching the binders. Edited January 26, 2015 by Aaronw Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdlbldrmatt135 Posted January 26, 2015 Share Posted January 26, 2015 I'm honestly not sure how strong the plastic is. (Or the chain for that matter) I'm sure they'd take some light tension on them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landman Posted January 26, 2015 Author Share Posted January 26, 2015 Is that KFS in England? I seem to remember that maybe I saw that in a thread and not a website and the fellow said he got them in England. As far as making some I'd make some in the closed position and attach them like that and I'd make some in the open position to hang on a headache rack. I think your sduspiscions of plastic not being strong enough for even a small tug are well founded. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aaronw Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 Yes, KFS in Englandhttp://www.kitformservices.com/photoetch.htmlPE54 Chain Stretchers, about 3/4 of the way down the page.I'm honestly not sure how strong the plastic is. (Or the chain for that matter) I'm sure they'd take some light tension on them.Yeah, was what I was wondering. It wouldn't have to take much, just enough to pull the slack out of the chain. I'm thinking maybe you could design then to take a small piece of wire at the hinge, but even then I'm not sure if the plastic could take that or not, I understand it is fairly brittle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fantacmet Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 If these were to be made 3D Printing what do you think the cost would be? I had a thread similar here just last week about securing the log loads. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdlbldrmatt135 Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 (edited) All, The indirect style show above are live in my store on Shapeways. https://www.shapeways.com/product/22C4HTYB9/1-24-indirect-load-binder-set-of-10?li=shop-inventory&optionId=55113940 https://www.shapeways.com/product/B58JWHKBR/1-24-scale-indirect-load-binder-set-of-20?li=shop-inventory&optionId=55114025 The ratcheting style: https://www.shapeways.com/product/Z48UAWGAK/ratcheting-load-binder-set-of-10-1-24-scale?li=shop-inventory&optionId=55118611 https://www.shapeways.com/product/YSKM4LCRZ/ratcheting-load-binder-20-1-24-scale?li=shop-inventory&optionId=55118615 Matt PS I can create sets with more if anyone needs more than 10 or 20....... Edited January 27, 2015 by mdlbldrmatt135 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landman Posted January 27, 2015 Author Share Posted January 27, 2015 Can you do this stuff in any scale you desire? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdlbldrmatt135 Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 Almost. 1/24 scale on these is about the limit for printing. There's a minimum wall thickness of .3mm (.0118") as the biggest constraining factor. That's why almost everything I sell is primarily available in the "Frosted Ultra Detail" material on Shapeways, as it offers the best detail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landman Posted January 27, 2015 Author Share Posted January 27, 2015 What about those casters? Are they feasible in 1/24? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdlbldrmatt135 Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 Sure, as the existing set is 1/35. ready to go in 1/24: https://www.shapeways.com/product/QW4LYPP6N/2-3-4-casters-1-24-scale?li=shop-inventory&key=ec132f7dde916a138d9de01ea5b1a190 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fantacmet Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 (edited) Ordered the small set, I'll let you know what I think. I wonder if they would be any stronger in Resin? I'll take a look, and if the resin would be stronger I'll talk to you and maybe we can work something out. Edited January 27, 2015 by fantacmet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdlbldrmatt135 Posted January 28, 2015 Share Posted January 28, 2015 OK, Even though they meet Shapeways minimum thickness standards, I've run into it before where the manual review fails..... this is one case where they feel it won't print successfully. I can: Remove them and make the hook separate. add a solid in the center of the link, so it looks like a figure 8 connector. Change the hook style to one with a removable pin thru it. To those that ordered: if you contact them after I fix it to reorder you can sometimes get them to waive the shipping if you ordered other items (as when you reorder it's considered a new order) Matt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KJ790 Posted January 28, 2015 Share Posted January 28, 2015 Those look nice Matt, I may have to pick up a set. The problem I have run into with frosted ultra detail parts from Shapways is that they are pretty weak and very brittle. It can make great parts as long as you are careful with them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdlbldrmatt135 Posted January 28, 2015 Share Posted January 28, 2015 (edited) Those look nice Matt, I may have to pick up a set. The problem I have run into with frosted ultra detail parts from Shapways is that they are pretty weak and very brittle. It can make great parts as long as you are careful with them. It's a double edged sword. you wind up with the brittle, if you want the detail. I wonder if I can make it closed & try simplifying it for use with the other plastics. Here's a set with the links missing. https://www.shapeways.com/model/upload-and-buy/3074703 Edited January 28, 2015 by mdlbldrmatt135 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landman Posted January 28, 2015 Author Share Posted January 28, 2015 I was going to suggest that after seeing the email Installing closed would prevent putting tension but it would be manageable I guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdlbldrmatt135 Posted January 28, 2015 Share Posted January 28, 2015 I was going to suggest that after seeing the email Installing closed would prevent putting tension but it would be manageable I guess. I'll do a set with more od a center in the link... like a figure 8.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fantacmet Posted January 28, 2015 Share Posted January 28, 2015 Well I got refunded, shapeways refused to print it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdlbldrmatt135 Posted January 28, 2015 Share Posted January 28, 2015 Well I got refunded, shapeways refused to print it. My Apologies. They wouldn't pass the manual review. I'm working on several other versions. I have one available that has the links between the hook and connecting arms removed. Working on another that has a figure 8 connector instead of the link. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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