Paul Payne Posted April 27, 2007 Share Posted April 27, 2007 I decided to build two deuces at once, nearly identical but... one will be as built in the 1940's, the other updated with a modern engine, disc brakes, and wider tires. The 40's deuce will be midnight blue metallic with a blue interior, the updated deuce will be metallic maroon with maroon interior. Each will have an engine turned aluminum dash, shortened chassis, gas tank moved to behind cockpit, quick change rear with axle tubes, dropped front axles, and steel wheels with center hubs and trim rings. I also plan to hinge both hoods using liquid silver tube beads. Here are some pix: general construction mess modified chassis compared to kit chassis the modern engine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Payne Posted April 27, 2007 Author Share Posted April 27, 2007 a few more pix: the flathead test fitted another view of the flathead valve cover detail for the big block Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Payne Posted April 27, 2007 Author Share Posted April 27, 2007 one more time! seats are front and rear seats from a Pyro Cord- best part of that kit! regular depth and deep dish wheels, but all steelies another view of the wheels and tires Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tuffy's Garage Posted April 27, 2007 Share Posted April 27, 2007 Thats going to be a neat project Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbwelda Posted April 27, 2007 Share Posted April 27, 2007 cool idea! one question: where did that face plate on the flathead come from, which kit i mean? i used one of those on the lincoln v-12 i built that you may have seen but i just found it in my parts box. now im getting ready to build another, this one to keep, and i couldnt figure out what kit it was in! i think i also stole the trans and oilpan from the same motor so getting another example will kill three birds! (note to my liberal friends: no birds were harmed in that last remark, its purely for illustration only. note to british liberal friends: no girls harmed either!) any help appreciated! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanSilva Posted April 28, 2007 Share Posted April 28, 2007 Il be watching thisone closely. Im a big fan of traditional hotrods. Where did that flathead 3 deuce air cleaner come from? also those ''firestone'' big print tires and quickchange center? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Payne Posted April 28, 2007 Author Share Posted April 28, 2007 jbwelda, the flathead is from the Monogram stock 1950 Ford pickup with aftermarket heads and intake manifold. All the blue plastic parts are from that kit- excellent detail! Ryan, I just replied to your boat tail build, thanks for looking at mine. The air cleaner is from Replicas and Miniatures of Maryland (Norm Weber)- I'm not quite sure it will really work with 3 carbs- usually it was used with 1 or 2, so it's a stretch. The Firestone big letter tires were in a bunch of tires I bought on E-bay- I have no idea what kit they came from, but they are very, very old- in fact, I don't even know if they were kit tires- could have been from a toy- if anyone out there can help us, I would like to know, too. The quick changes were from my parts box. AMT's 1940 Willys coupe had a nice quick change, and Norm also has them and includes axle tubes with them, so you don't have to rob a kit! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian_R Posted April 28, 2007 Share Posted April 28, 2007 Paul Can you explain a little more - "I also plan to hinge both hoods using liquid silver tube beads." Any pics? I haven't heard of that before. Brian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanSilva Posted April 28, 2007 Share Posted April 28, 2007 http://www.artbeads.com/lqdsvr-1.html Those are liquid silver beads. There small diameter rods basicly. Sewing pins fit inside very well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Payne Posted April 28, 2007 Author Share Posted April 28, 2007 I haven't started on the liquid silver tube beads for the hood hinges, but these are very small diameter tubes made from silver. I used these as part of a throttle linkage assembly, and realized they would simulate scale hinges for classic and hot rod hoods. Here are some pix of the throttle linkage: My idea is to string them on a stiff wire and compare the length to the length of the hood, allowing for paint, and learning whether beads would need to be shortened at the front and rear. The center hinge would have the wire ends trapped between the cowl and grille shell, the side hinges would end at the ends of the beads. I have an ancient set of Trimaster photoetched hinges, but have never had the courage to use them, so I thought I would try this! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lyle Willits Posted April 28, 2007 Share Posted April 28, 2007 Neat deuce projects. I'm looking forward to seeing these finished. BTW, Norm's last name is Veber, not Weber. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Payne Posted April 29, 2007 Author Share Posted April 29, 2007 Lyle, my digital dyslexia must be acting up again..... thanks for looking! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Payne Posted May 15, 2007 Author Share Posted May 15, 2007 a few new photos of progress- beginning the liquid silver beads for hinges more engine progress some color on the wheels Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Metallic Posted May 15, 2007 Share Posted May 15, 2007 Looking good. How do you plan to replicate the engine turned dash? Inquiring minds want to know! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Payne Posted May 16, 2007 Author Share Posted May 16, 2007 I used sheet aluminum and used a small diameter diamond grit grinder in my rotary tool. You have to be careful because it wants to dig in.... Hopefully this time I will have better control and get a better pattern. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Payne Posted October 7, 2007 Author Share Posted October 7, 2007 finally some progress pix! semi-scratchbuilt exhaust manifolds for Boss 429- will get photoetched header flanges the other side not finally fitted modified Weber carbs- flanges thinned, velocity stacks removed, will get new aluminum stacks with jets, which will hopefully fit under the hood.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Payne Posted October 7, 2007 Author Share Posted October 7, 2007 flathead still needs carb linkages, fuel, and oil lines radiator modified for 4 water hoses Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Payne Posted October 7, 2007 Author Share Posted October 7, 2007 (edited) working steering for 40's rod pitman arm fairing similar to Doane Spencer roadster, windshield mounting recesses filled, windshield cowl strip top filed at an angle so windshield will lay back gas filler added, rear crossmember drilled for license plate and club plaque mounting brackets, fillers added between body and frame at rear Edited October 7, 2007 by Paul Payne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Payne Posted October 7, 2007 Author Share Posted October 7, 2007 eyeball shifter, soon to be 8 ball shifter, manual pressure pump knob the beginnings of the engine turned aluminum instrument panels which will be mounted over the kit panel steering boxes, oil filter, coil, master cylinder, fuel pressure pump, disc brakes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Payne Posted October 7, 2007 Author Share Posted October 7, 2007 cogged blower belt and pulley for Boss 429, salvaged from cartridge drive belt from defunct printer grillles, the maroon one needs foil and a black wash like the blue one groove tread front tires for the 40's deuce, from Arrowhead Aluminum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Payne Posted October 7, 2007 Author Share Posted October 7, 2007 interior buckets, lots of work yet! the liquid silver bead hinge for the hood didn't work out the first time, will attempt again using a different method Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
my80malibu Posted October 9, 2007 Share Posted October 9, 2007 interior buckets, lots of work yet! the liquid silver bead hinge for the hood didn't work out the first time, will attempt again using a different method It looks absolutely fantastic so far I would really like to have a steering front end like that could you post more detail pictures as you continue on with that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Payne Posted October 9, 2007 Author Share Posted October 9, 2007 my88malibu, I used pieces of styrene sheet glued onto 1940(?) Ford wheel backs. I removed the axle ends and wheel backs from the kit front axle, then rounded the cut-away area to form the spindle, then drilled a hole down through the center, working from each end. I then spaced two styrene pieces to go over and under the spindle ends and glued them to the wheel. I drilled one hole in one piece and the lined it up on the spindle and drilled through this hole, the spindle, and the second piece of styrene. I then added a second piece of styrene to the bottom at 90 degrees and drilled through again, same procedure, then drilled a hole for the tie rod end. The driver's side was done the same way but with the addition of a piece above the top piece parallel to the axle, drilled through, then drilled a hole for the drag link attachment point. The tie rod was bent up from brass rod with aluminum tube on the ends with holes drilled perpendicular for the pivots. Got all that!?!?!?! I will post more pix when I get a minute with the front end disassembled, then my directions may seem a little clearer (sounds like English translation of Japanese kit instructions translated by way of an obscure central Amazonian dialect....) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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