cool, and i have been thinking of getting a 944 turbo, or the 944 DOHC (and adding a turbo) or a 968 (adding a turbo), for my first porsche...... but i dunno, 964's are becoming cheaper recently (like i can get one right now, lol) i seen a decent one go for $13,000(EST), but i can only wish right now...... LOL