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yeah im really wanting to blue print this one out and then some, but any advice on some after market suppliers or advice on getting said tires and axles ?
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i desided im going to build a strait truck bulk feed tanker these trucks are usally 38-40 feet long with a single lift axle. the axle is usally infront of drive axle or behined.
i wanna build it up to look like a really hard heavy haul 359/379? (not sure yet ) so im thinking of doing a drop axle in front and rear of drives.
i have a revell pete 359 now i wanna use as the stepping stone for the project . (this is the one in 1/25 scale that is purple on the box )
any how i was looking on the sour krauts sight for after market parts and everything seems to be sold out
so i was wondering how to find a list of items
1. floater tires for front steer axle.
2. extra sets of tires to make duels fror both drop axles( would like them to be crome or look aluminum im not looking for spokes)
3. im cutting sleeper off thinking of scratching the back wall with out a window (advice on cutting bunk? thinking of using hacksaw and putting in new pice of plastic. IS a after market piece out there and better?
4. a texas style bumper.
5. a drop visor
6. along with the tires for drop axles im looking for axles to shown in the lifted up postions
hopefully my list is understandable and i could go on the right track to find the stuff and items i need!
also im looking to add i think about 7 to 8 inch of frame to get a strait truck length of 40feet how is best way to strenthing frame to hold weight of a piece of pvc pipe? im going to add a bulk of leangth from cab back to drive axles with about a inch added on after the drives !!!
im thinking of making frame look same with reinforement frame rails inside strenth and lots of cross memebers advice on this would help
gary
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hey i think im going to go with the pvc pipe.
here are some of the questions i got pvc pipe is really heavy, i sat it on my logging trailer it squatted down but it held. and i need to cut the pipe down so that will free up some wieght. but people that have used it what are they using to bond other platic to it? the pipe is very smooth would it be something to soand down a good bit to ruff it up ? thats about it for now this sould become a intresting project
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hey i'm looking to build a bulk feed trailer. the new style is round but flat at top and bottom, the older ones more a less a gas tanker raised up, so first i wanna know if anyone ever did the texico fuel tanker and could tell me the size of it length with and hight of the tank its self !
and lets say i wanna make a scratch build round one, what is the best way of going about this ? now the trailer hasd up to 8-10 compartments so i can put round discks in side main tube so it would be stronger. but as for heating plastic and makin it round whould using a piece of pvc pipe as a mold to heat it on ?
or could a use a thin piece of pre made pvc pipe to make main tube ? would that be cheating to build off of it! lol dumb question i know
the link below is to give you idea of what i wanna do visually. i seen a guy build a model of this in 80s but he died so cant get info from him but i looked at his model and i think like i said used gas tanker as base for body of tanker!
the tanker is scale should be about 20 inch long for a scale 40 foot
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hey, im looking to do a day cab lonestar, with a bulk feed trailer (round trailer with auger booms) used around my home in lancaster pa. does anyone know where i could start looking for or go about changing the new kit to a daycab?
also im looking to do a daycan sloped nose kw, the real steep slope( not sure of model) but i wanna do a tri axle feed truck as the above also as a option !
so if you know of anyone to recomend for finding some resein kits to help start this please let me know.
i know every kit cant have a sleeper on it !!!
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how about some plans here you go
mesure mesure mesure!!!!!!
well now that i have this one done, im going to do another one and keep track and log every piece and order its put together. im really thinking it be fun to master it and one day make it as a kit, wonder if it would sale ? but thank you it was really simple in the end just alot of trial and error. i never did scrach build before and this was my secound model after not modeling for about 15 years. but yes when i do the next for a friend ill make a parts list and keep track of it for ya.
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ok everyone here is the truck i called 2nd chance and a 2011 wilson hopper bottom.
the truck is a revell 359 kit strait from box. done in taymila mica blue and flack back. its modeled after a friends truck. the trailer is modeled after the trailer i pull
it took me about 3 months on and off to model. the trailer is a scale 20 inches long and done in the 1/25 scale.
the hoppers them selves happen to be the hardest part was getting the angles right and smooth. i would guess the hole trailer has about 100 pieces.
i made each hopper then copied the frist one once i got it right it was them glued together the rapped in the outside ribbed sheets. its painted a tamilya chrome color. the lights are flat plastic cut to shape and size. the tarp was made for me by a old mennonite lady down the street from me. its mounted on the riht side with electric tape till i find a good way to mount to trailer. even thouth its thin fabric its hard to mount with scale size items.
but the tarp does role open and close.
the yellow tarp straps are just yellow ribbion wrap i picked up at acmoore. the ribs are made from half round plastic. the tandoms are scracth built using plastic tube, wheel are from a othe 379 kit that didnt work out so well. the rear suspention isnt as perfect as i wanted its scratch built. the kit i wanted to do it with was outta stock, but this was more of a proto type to see if i could do it.
im really happy with the outcome of this trailer and its loved buy alot of fellow drivers who now are requesting i build them one
i hope you guys like it please feel free to ask any questions and leave any comments
gary
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wow thank you soo much, some great photos and some great modeling going on here, i looked at some of your other pictures, great yeah i picked this up and a couple other of the monster trucks and linburg kits super cheap at a place called Olies bargen outlet. they buy stuff damaged in shipping. or over stocks. the story i got was linburg had a fire at a place in L.A. ??? , everything sealled in box and good to go but for i think 10.00 bucks for the monster truck alone i wasnt going to care if some soot was on the box. great models and detail in there kits it was the first time i heard of linburg
again thank you so much for the photos
gary
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i put this on tips and tricks but after posting i wasnt sure if i shouldnt put it on her
hey everyone.
once again my friend google took a early start to the three day weekend. my image search turned up mostly truck shots no motors. im building a linburg model of the wierd-os monster trucks its a 2007 casting of a newer dodge truck so im guessing its a hemi/cyrsler motor of somesort any how i would relly like to detail it via paint and add on accesories. the instructions along with the model its self are highly detailed but i wanna try my hand at really wireing and plumming. so if anyone has some photos of a monster truck motor and or im guessing a dagster/funny car engine might be of similer set up i'd really thank you
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hey everyone.
once again my friend google took a early start to the three day weekend. my image search turned up mostly truck shots no motors. im building a linburg model of the wierd-os monster trucks its a 2007 casting of a newer dodge truck so im guessing its a hemi/cyrsler motor of somesort any how i would relly like to detail it via paint and add on accesories. the instructions along with the model its self are highly detailed but i wanna try my hand at really wireing and plumming. so if anyone has some photos of a monster truck motor and or im guessing a dagster/funny car engine might be of similer set up i'd really thank you
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also folks with the comment about the u joint truck mecanic made how do i go about making or getting a working scale u-joint could it be done ? i 'd love it if i could make my tarp open and close
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Well Done...
I can give ya some insight on tarps. I use to be a trailer mechanic for a trash hauling trucking company. The prefered tarp was made by Mountain Tarp Inc... I'm guessing you're building whats called a roll over tarp. The anchor bar if I remember was 1,1/8"OD the length of the tarp. The anchor bar mounts and tarp stops may be tricky to scratch build. Usually the tarp will be mounted on the trailers' curb side so the driver just rolls the tarp over from the road side. I did some experimenting making a tarp using fine curtain material. That worked good. On the rool over tarps I have experience w/ were heavy vynal nearly leather. But in the center was nylon mesh. The problem w/ working in scale size using actuall vynal the material cut to that size is too stout and doesn't form fit and looks highly unproportioned. So I used a solid black curtain for the vynal part of the tarp and a black sheer curtain to make the inside mesh part. My ex girlfriend showed me a trick to attach the materials togather. She used a strip that use place on the material then lay the other piece material ti join to it and run an iron over it. The strip was designed to adhere the materials togather from the heat of an iron. It works awesome!!! On the 1:1 tarps they have pockets sewn in the length of the tarp on both sides. One for the anchor bar and the other for the roll bar opposite side. KS tubing worked perfect. The 1:1 tarp bars were 15' sections. The just one end is tapered so it inserts flush into the other section then you weld the seam. When I installed/repaired those taprs on the walking floors the achor bar I made the length of the tarp. That didn't go anywhere hence it's name. The roll bar I would make long enough to extend 18" outside the tarp on both ends. This is because sometimes as the driver is rolling it(opening) sometimes they get sideways and if that bar is just the length of the trailer and gets sideways then it'll fall down inside a trailer. Then the driver has to get inside the trailer and fish the tarp out. When drivers get paid per the load and they have to take time to fish out the tarp they get upset to say the least. For your straps use 3mm wide ribbon you can find in a craft section. Rough them up a little to get the sheen off. Mountain Tarp has black straps only. These straps have a bull ring sewn on one end. Installing the straps to the tarp was simple you just take a razor and cut slits in the tarp directly behind the rollbar. Feed the strap up under the tarp and around the bar and then feed the end thru that ring and pull it straight down. The ratchets are mounted to the trailer in two ways. One, they can be mounted solid by opening up the ratch drilling a hole in the side of the trailer and using a tapered end 3/8 bolt. That's the easiest. The problem w/ that was as the truck's in transit the wind is tring to pull the trailer off an it elongated the hole that bolt is in and gets loose then ya gotta drill another hole and remount the ratchet because it got loose. I've seen them come off if left unattended too long. Then the driver usues a bungee strap hooked to the rathcet to hold strap tight LOL. The other way is a mount that gets welded to the trailer. This is the best but when you're in a service truck at a transfer station 150miles from the shop you have to resort to the first method. If you were to look at the mount fromt the side it might resemble this here----> _l-l_ On the ratchets i s a bolt I wanna say a half inch bolt the hex is 13/16 if I remember. You take that bolt out then take the ratchet and bolt it to that mount and they hang. The bad thing about that is when empty and the tarp is open /secured as the trailer hits bumps they tend to bounce and make the side of the trailer. Considering the trailers I worked on were trash haulers that wasn't an issue. But if it's a well taken care of hopper then the farmer might be upset having the ratchet slapping the side of his trailer. I hope this gave ya a little insight on understanding the tarps 1:1 and the tips to make a scale size tarp. I almost forgot on the tarp is a handle the driver uses to roll open the tarp. Some are attached the the roll bar itself and others the handle is removable. Either version there is a small u-joint at the end of the handle that allows it to be able to rotate as the driver turns it to roll open the tarp. On the removable handle version the bar would hang on the side of the trailer. What I did was I took the tapr stops and unsed the mounting brackets used for the tarps anchor bar for the handle mounts I took the aluminum stops off . ( those were always getting bent and have to be replaced so the stops I just kept in my service trusks' inventory) then I just mounted those brackets to the side of the trailer the length of the bar. Since the handle was basically made from the same OD pipe the achor bars were they worked perfect. Then I would take a bungee strap remove one s hook mount that centered between the mounts. Next I cut one end off so the bungee was a few inches short. I carefully drilled a hole in the end of the strap then I drilled a hole in the trailer. I used the same tapered bolts used to mount the ratcheds solid and a fender washer and screwed the strap to the trailer. This is used to secure the handle tight. Screwing it to the trailer was my way of making it fail safe from the strap getting lost.
Again I hope this gave ya some ideas how to make your tarp.
GOOD LUCK!!!
hey thats so much info thanks
but yes this is a replica of the 2011 wilson trailer i pull and you got all your numbers and facts right. yeah i was looking at using cloth for the tarp i just wasnt sure what kind and how to go about it.
all i can reply with is thank you for the info again and again
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hey everyone, the other post happen to beunder my name graintruck but for some rson i can't sign on to it. im posting some photos of my wilson grain hopper im scratch building. since i last posted its gotten a suspention, the tarp support bows, the support beams for the hoppers, the crank bar and u-joints to open the hoppers. and also put on the trim on outside. i must say this has been a fun build doing ot all from scratch i've learned alot and if i was to build another on i know or rather have a better plan of attack!at this point im having trouble finding marker lights for the trailer and how to make 40 foot long racthet straps to go atop the bows, i tried useing shoe laces but they are too thick so ill keep looking. also the tarp its self on top is a tuff call too not sure what to do but will maybe make a tarp that pops on and off.
here below is the link for the new photos the album that says wilson is the first set of photos
please tell me what you think i need your reviews to no matter how harsh they help me power on
thanks folks enjoy!!!
building a bulk feed tanker truck
in WIP: Model Trucks: Big Rigs and Heavy Equipment
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ok everyone here is some updates and photos of the truck, it started out as the revell 359 i cut the bunk off, and made it into a windowless daycab. this was my first time doing a daycab converstion so i gotta say im happy with it.
next thing i did was cut the frame and added about 6 inches to the frame to bring the truck to a 40 foot in total leanghth. i used more of a i-beam to do the streching since its having to hold a heave piece of 3 inch pvc pipe.
as you can see from the pics its super strong and does hold it quite well, the truck is going to get a drop axle put in and also bag boxes. (bag boxes are compartments on side of tank close to cab that bags of feed are put into)
the tank is now capped at both ends
some of the items on the list to go are making a drop axle,
making a working auger boom( i hope it rotates anyway)
i need to make bag boxes, the side shelves for truck ( they run leangth of tank and are for stargage of bags and blower pipe.
i wanna plum all hydrolic lines, and also plum the lines from the blower system
in regards to blower systerm i need to make a pto case for transmisson, a blower box, a hydrolic cooling box, ,
the lid system with safty rails for top of tank !
and thats just to start !
http://s1204.photobucket.com/albums/bb409/dabelltoller1/#!cpZZ1QQtppZZ24
enjoy some of the progress photo and feel free to comment and ask questions!