OK, let's build a "Little Deuce Coupe".

[Greg Myers]

To set the mood, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e6DrMkLNYKw  

Some reference material :   

Lyrics

Little deuce Coupe
You don't know what I got
Little deuce Coupe
You don't know what I got

Well I'm not braggin' babe so don't put me down
But I've got the fastest set of wheels in town
When something comes up to me he don't even try
Cause if I had a set of wings man I know she could fly
She's my little deuce coupe
You don't know what I got
(My little deuce coupe)
(You don't know what I got)

Just a little deuce coupe with a flat head mill
But she'll walk a Thunderbird like (she's) it's standin' still
She's ported and relieved and she's stroked and bored.
She'll do a hundred and forty with the top end floored
She's my little deuce coupe
You don't know what I got
(My little deuce coupe)
(You don't know what I got)

She's got a competition clutch with the four on the floor
And she purrs like a kitten till the lake pipes roar
And if that ain't enough to make you flip your lid
There's one more thing, I got the pink slip daddy

And comin' off the line when the light turns green
Well she blows 'em outta the water like you never seen
I get pushed out of shape and it's hard to steer
When I get rubber in all four gears

She's my little deuce coupe
You don't know what I got
(My little deuce coupe)
(You don't know what I got)
She's my little deuce coupe
You don't know what I got
(My little deuce coupe)
(You don't know what I got)
She's my little deuce coupe
You don't know what I got

[Greg Myers]

Now to interpret the lyrics.  Little Deuce Coupe. 3 window or Five ? 

[mike 51]

Funny song!  

Way out of date when it was written...they were "car guys" ?

[Greg Myers]

Fenders or not ? 

 

 

 

 

Edited September 9, 2015 by Greg Myers

[Ace-Garageguy]

Funny song!  

Way out of date when it was written...they were "car guys" ?

Ummmm...I'm not getting what's wrong with it. By '63, flatheads were getting a little long in the tooth, but a 140mph flathead-powered deuce (light car...could be built right around 2000 pounds...couple hundred HP) was STILL a potent machine. 10 pounds per HP...pretty quick indeed.

Anyway, this one does it for me.

Edited September 9, 2015 by Ace-Garageguy

[Greg Myers]

Some unknowns, what kinda intake ya gonna use ?

Rear end ?

 

 

 

Edited September 9, 2015 by Greg Myers

[mike 51]

By 63 (in SoCal at least,they were few n far between) remember new cars were "cool" by then.  I remember having that reaction to the song back in the day.

But I do agree with you 'bout the black 3 window.

Anybody remember the fuss that first blue duece caused when it was first in Hot Rod magizine?  It had a swastika on the blower pulley, lots of people were offended even back then..

Edited September 9, 2015 by mike 51

[Ace-Garageguy]

By 63 (in SoCal at least,they were few n far between) remember new cars were "cool" by then.  I remember having that reaction to the song back in the day.

I always got the impression the car in the song was supposed to be something of a sleeper, being just a lowly 'old' flathead-powered car that would "walk a Thunderbird (new car?) like it's standing still".

And I figured the "you don't know what I got" line referred to the obvious speed potential of a late-model OHV-powered production car, but the speed of the ol' deuce wasn't apparent 'til the light turned green.

I thought the "there's one more thing...I got the pink slip, daddy" line is a jab at the financed newer cars, where bank had the pinks.

Just one old fart's interpretation, that's all.

Edited September 9, 2015 by Ace-Garageguy

[Greg Myers]

Ok, none of this will show up on our model, She's ported and relieved and she's stroked and bored. 

But how about the "four on the floor." What are we talkin' here?  

Looks like all kind of adaptors were / are available. So take yer pick, Volvo ? http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/threads/tech-cheap-and-easy-4-speed-to-flathead-v8.452937/ 

So it won't have to be a top shift like the old Fords. It can be a side shift like most of the sixty's GM, Ford and MOPAR trannies.   They can all have a shifter stickin' outta the floor. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited September 9, 2015 by Greg Myers

[mike 51]

I think you're right about what they *meant*.  

[Ace-Garageguy]

Wasn't the Borg Warner T-10   4-speed intro'd in the '57 Corvette? Easy to make an adapter and drill the flywheel for the Chevy clutch.

Edited September 9, 2015 by Ace-Garageguy

[mike 51]

Yep 1957.

There was probably a truck 4spd. that would adapt even easier...surely someone (who didn't quite get it) tried 

[MGL]

This sounds like it could be a pretty cool community build, maybe add the Hot Rod Lincoln and see what happens. 

[Greg Myers]

Let's Keep It Simple Shallwe ? One at a time. I know, "same group" but it's a Model A. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited September 9, 2015 by Greg Myers

[mike 51]

Non-top loader shifters take up a lot of space in area where's there's none to spare.

 I vote for a 39 box (with Zephyer gears of course)>> torque tube>>banjo rear.>>transverse spring.

Edited September 9, 2015 by mike 51

[slusher]

This sounds like it could be a pretty cool community build, maybe add the Hot Rod Lincoln and see what happens. 

That was a very cool car song..

[Greg Myers]

Yep 1957.

There was probably a truck 4spd. that would adapt even easier...surely someone (who didn't quite get it) tried 

Goin' on the H.A.M.B. they cover that and a bunch of others.

[Greg Myers]

"Lake Pipes" ? any one ? I've ask this here before.  These have always been "Lake Pipes" to me. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited September 9, 2015 by Greg Myers

[mike 51]

Yep lake pipes.

tho' more recently I think I've heard the header style in the 29 kit called lake pipes too?

Edited September 9, 2015 by mike 51

[Ace-Garageguy]

You'll find that early on, these were "lakes pipes". Often, like the design in the new Revell '29, there was a muffled, non-race street exhaust teed off of the megaphone. The megs were uncapped for racing work on the "lakes", capped for the street. Perforated metal 'muffler' cores or glass-packed equivalents could also be inserted into the megs, taken out for lakes racing.

The long side-pipes that later became known as "lake pipes" also usually had removable caps on the ends, if you look closely. They at least emulated the look of the real-racer ability to remove the caps to run open exhausts.

Edited September 9, 2015 by Ace-Garageguy

[Greg Myers]

I ain't buyin' that.  Not that you didn't hear it. But that that's what they are. Other than reversionary history, change it as we go. 

[Ace-Garageguy]

I ain't buyin' that.  Not that you didn't hear it. But that that's what they are. Other than reversionary history, change it as we go. 

Ain't buyin what, exactly? The shorty headers are "lakes pipes" because they ran 'em on the lakes. The longer side pipes got tagged with the same name.

Edited September 9, 2015 by Ace-Garageguy

[Greg Myers]

"Lake Plugs" ? But the song Doesn't say "Lake Plugs". 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited September 9, 2015 by Greg Myers

[Ace-Garageguy]

"Lakes pipes" or "lake pipes" are OPEN pipes you run to make more power, short headers or long side pipes...which evolved into a fashion statement on customs. Lake-plugs are the caps on the ends.

Don't take my word for it; get you a big stack of old Hot Rod mags, starting in '49, and an equal stack of Rod & Custom. You'll see.

Love both of those cars, by the way.

Edited September 9, 2015 by Ace-Garageguy

[Greg Myers]

I got 'em. But it seems to be lost in time. Here's some stuff from the H.A.M.B. : http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/threads/kustoms-history-question-lakes-pipes.128765/ and :  http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/threads/origin-of-lakes-pipes.755033/