kit sources for traditional ford parts

[STYRENE-SURFER]

I just picked up the new Revell 29 Ford 2'n1 kit that is very popular here.

I would like to build it as more of a traditional rod of the era using parts available back then.

However, I am unable to find well detailed front and rear ford bits in any of the kits in my

stash. 

Any ideas for kits that have good front/rear wishbone type thingies to use.
 

I like the kit in general, but it's just too much of a mishmash to me.

Not enough of one thing or the other to persuade me that a committee wasn't involved.

 

 

[Casey]

Look to '60s era kits like the 1/25 Revell '29 Ford Rat Rod (Model A Pickup), '31 Ford Model A, AMT '32 Vicky, '36 and '40 Ford Coupes, etc. Lots of reviews of most of the reissues of these kits in the Reviews section, too, so you can see which exact parts they contain.

[Ace-Garageguy]

The dropped I-beam front axle and split wishbones in the '29 kit are perfectly acceptable for a period build, as are the '40 Ford hydraulic-brake backing plates, and I believe the finned Buick brake drums would be '58 and later.

As Casey suggests, a good source for a rear crossmember, buggy spring and a banjo rear end with wishbones is one of many versions of Revell's previous Model A.

You might also get some ideas from this thread of mine...    http://www.modelcarsmag.com/forums/topic/66934-new-revell-29-old-amt-29-mashup-nov28-buggy-spring-mods/?page=1

[sidcharles]

Q; is there a banjo rear end in 3D or resin available?

 

thx

[stavanzer]

I'd look for this kit. Or any of it's older version.

This one has lots of optional suspension parts and radiator grilles.

 

https://www.scalemates.com/kits/revell-85-2064-30-ford-woody-street-rod-2-n-1--158724

[johnyrotten]

3 hours ago, sidcharles said:

Q; is there a banjo rear end in 3D or resin available?

 

thx

https://www.vcgresins.com/shop/p/banjo-rear-end-for-revell-29-30-and-32-fords

[sidcharles]

thanks. i saw those but wanted the conventional buggy spring suspension. i could use it and cobble something up, but i assumed it would have been a popular enough component it would have been made x now.

 

thanks,

 

s.e.

[Ace-Garageguy]

6 minutes ago, sidcharles said:

thanks. i saw those but wanted the conventional buggy spring suspension. i could use it and cobble something up, but i assumed it would have been a popular enough component it would have been made x now.

I've always been kinda surprised nobody (to the best of my knowledge) has made what you're looking for as separate parts, though Replicas and Miniatures makes a set of rear buggy springs in resin that look like repops of Revell parts.

Most all the rods I've ever built got quick-changes, but it would be nice to be able to do a low-budget period piece without having to take the bits out of an otherwise perfectly good kit.

The old Revell "roadster chassis speed equipment" parts pack had a banjo. It wasn't right and they're expensive and rare now, unless you get the whole tree in one of the Atlantis repops of the old Revell double dragster kits.

DISREGARD THE HIGHLIGHTED RECTANGLES

The banjo housing and axle tubes are at the lower RH corners of the trees below, while the buggy springs are at the upper LH.

 

[Calb56]

19 minutes ago, Ace-Garageguy said:

I've always been kinda surprised nobody (to the best of my knowledge) has made what you're looking for as separate parts, though Replicas and Miniatures makes a set of rear buggy springs in resin that look like repops of Revell parts.

Most all the rods I've ever built got quick-changes, but it would be nice to be able to do a low-budget period piece without having to take the bits out of an otherwise perfectly good kit.

The old Revell "roadster chassis speed equipment" parts pack had a banjo. It wasn't right and they're expensive and rare now, unless you get the whole tree in one of the Atlantis repops of the old Revell double dragster kits.

DISREGARD THE HIGHLIGHTED RECTANGLES

The banjo housing and axle tubes are at the lower RH corners of the trees below, while the buggy springs are at the upper LH.

 

RMoM used to do a traditional 32 chassis  but it's no longer available. Atlantis used to offer just a repop of c-1132 by itself but no longer.

P-118 is still available from Norm for the front suspension pieces too. As well as his rear suspension and possibly Columbia as well as quick change rearend.

 

Edited Tuesday at 09:59 PM by Calb56

[Calb56]

No longer available 😢 

This last one also no longer available by itself...

[Calb56]

9 minutes ago, Calb56 said:

No longer available 😢 

This last one also no longer available by itself...

I wish I had RH 418 personally, I've begged but Norm has no interest in casting it again...

[sidcharles]

well . ..  . i didn't realize the Revell units were on the  Keeler's Kustoms Yellow Fever Competition Coupe  tree. so that's progress.

i have a set of the RMCM buggy springs but my word are they - even to the point of carrying a warning on the instruction sheet - delicate.

i will save those for something much lighter than a Revell '32 Ford 5w Jalopy.   [perhaps something paired with a light chassis, bucket T roadster & V8 60 resin w/ jiggler & smith heads from ebay  i have. ]

i like the idea of sliding in a piece of brass to lend support.

will continue to dig through my parts bin to see what i can come up with.

thanks,

sid

[Calb56]

Well, when MapleLeaf comes back online...they had a great quick-change with the proper cross brace and I think springs?

[sidcharles]

i have been trying to come up with some parameters so when this is finished and someone asks "why is this like that?" i'll have background information to draw on.

if i use cars from the years 1932 until 1941 (so i can sneak in an AMT '41 Plymouth) and components from '32 to '49, i can use the cut off date of March 13, 1949 and it puts bookends on the stable of cars.  this will keep me out of NASCAR territory although dangerously close.

better to think "guys racing 'round at the local county fair" era.

none of this is more deep than simply giving me parameters to operate. i already want an AMT '53 Ford pickup because it's such an iconic model and i've built several over aa lifetime. And i have a couple of RMCM engines i want to use up so they won't go in the estate sale after my ultimate demise.

to date, i have a rules sheet from the early '50s from the California Roadster Association 

 

and the rules from the Okie Bowl hardtops:  Okie Rules

and i cannot say enough good things about all the posters on HAMB & Ford Barn that have helped me amass information in short time to get this moving.

so i am loosely basing the restrictions on them and erring on the side of caution when necessary.

i think both rules discourage quick change rear ends, and the local economy would not support such extravagant indulgences anyway. i mean, the three sponsors i have lined up are Hadacol Patent Medicines, Mason Jars & Rings, & Shinola Shoe Polish.

none are them are going to spring for no hi-falutin'  "quick changin' reah end"

you think?

Edited Tuesday at 11:07 PM by sidcharles

[Calb56]

5 hours ago, Calb56 said:

Well, when MapleLeaf comes back online...they had a great quick-change with the proper cross brace and I think springs?

[Calb56]

 

5 hours ago, sidcharles said:

i have been trying to come up with some parameters so when this is finished and someone asks "why is this like that?" i'll have background information to draw on.

if i use cars from the years 1932 until 1941 (so i can sneak in an AMT '41 Plymouth) and components from '32 to '49, i can use the cut off date of March 13, 1949 and it puts bookends on the stable of cars.  this will keep me out of NASCAR territory although dangerously close.

better to think "guys racing 'round at the local county fair" era.

none of this is more deep than simply giving me parameters to operate. i already want an AMT '53 Ford pickup because it's such an iconic model and i've built several over aa lifetime. And i have a couple of RMCM engines i want to use up so they won't go in the estate sale after my ultimate demise.

to date, i have a rules sheet from the early '50s from the California Roadster Association 

 

and the rules from the Okie Bowl hardtops:  Okie Rules

and i cannot say enough good things about all the posters on HAMB & Ford Barn that have helped me amass information in short time to get this moving.

so i am loosely basing the restrictions on them and erring on the side of caution when necessary.

i think both rules discourage quick change rear ends, and the local economy would not support such extravagant indulgences anyway. i mean, the three sponsors i have lined up are Hadacol Patent Medicines, Mason Jars & Rings, & Shinola Shoe Polish.

none are them are going to spring for no hi-falutin'  "quick changin' reah end"

you think?

A 36 ford suspension? Spring behind the axle?

Edited Wednesday at 04:14 AM by Calb56

[sidcharles]

i like that; thanks.

there's a stipulation in the Rules which indicated driveshafts must be painted white. 

Q: was that considered a safety feature of some sort?

i cannot fathom torque tubes being outlawed. i have been wrong before. aplenty.

the '36 component would imply the builder was including a more better part on behalf of performance. i don't know if technically the gear ratio(s) would be

different/ better suited for 'round & 'round, but i could use that as justification in my model world. or whirl.

appreciate the suggestion.