jmk0303 Posted June 27, 2024 Posted June 27, 2024 Hi there. Are there any of these engines being made in 1/25? I know there are 383’s in some kits but looking for one correct for the 1967 Plymouth Fury. The Jo-Han kit only has a hemi. I was thinking about the 383 in the ‘64 Belvedere but would still need the dual snorkel air cleaner. Any thoughts would be appreciated. Regards, Joe
drodg Posted June 27, 2024 Posted June 27, 2024 I thought the Polar Lights/AMT 1965 Coronet had a dual snorkel air cleaner.
jmk0303 Posted June 27, 2024 Author Posted June 27, 2024 Mmm…I don’t know. I haven’t been able to find any pictures of it online. Everyone seems to have posted the cross ram dual carb engine.
1972coronet Posted June 28, 2024 Posted June 28, 2024 (edited) Another thing to watch for (presuming that you're replicating a factory stock engine) is the rocker arm covers (colloq. , valve covers). Main difference is 1970 & later vs. c.1963 - 1969 -- location of the breather changed for 1970 & later to the right (passenger side) rocker cover (to facilitate EEC required that year), and the PCV was changed its location as well. Now for picking fly poop out of pepper : number of retainers for the rocker covers changed as well : 1958 - c.1963 had two-less retainers vs. the c.1964 & later 'covers. Air cleaner should - as you've mentioned - have snorkels ; the lid should be ribbed as well . Edited June 28, 2024 by 1972coronet AMENDMENT
CapSat 6 Posted June 28, 2024 Posted June 28, 2024 (edited) First, keep in mind that all Mopar Big Blocks could stand in either for a 383 (or 361, or 400) B Block or 440 (or 413, or 426) RB block. The differences between these engines are negligible in scale. They will only really differ in the year-to-year details. I guess the closest thing in scale would either be the 426 Street Wedge engine from the Lindberg ‘64 Plymouth Belvedere or Dodge 330, or perhaps the 426 from the Moebius ‘65 Plymouth Satellite. These engines will come with something close to the right air cleaner for these. You might need to swap some components like valve covers, exhaust manifolds, fans and pulleys, and carbs to make it more like a ‘67 383. If I remember it correctly, these engines have 4 speed transmissions. If you want to build your Fury with a 4 speed, you’re ok here, but those were very rare cars, so you likely will want an automatic transmission. The Revell ‘68 Dart GTS kit comes with a VERY nice B/RB engine with an auto trans. If it were me, I would probably start with one of those engines and try to kitbash it a little to get it to look like a ‘67 383. The exhaust manifolds are wrong, as they are the A Body style, so I would probably swap them with the ones from the ‘68 Coronet kit if possible. The rest of the ‘68 Coronet engine is really old school- it’s not the best looking engine mostly because the design was just ok in 1968, and better renditions have come out since. That still leaves you with needing the proper air cleaner. The Lindberg/ AMT Belvederes and 330’s have the right style air cleaner, as well as the Moebius Satellite, and also the MPC ‘68 Dodge Coronet kits, but the only kits that ever really got this air cleaner right were made by Jo Han. The Jo Han ‘65-‘68 Chrysler 300’s and ‘68 Plymouth Fury Cop cars came with the proper air cleaner with indents all around instead of raised areas (as the MPC, AMT, Moebius and Lindberg kits have). I was REALLY hoping that Round 2 would have done a better air cleaner with their recent ‘68 Coronet kit, but unfortunately, the one they did looks just like the original. The ‘68 cop car cleaner might be best, since the Chrysler piece has “TNT” pie plate lettering engraved on it. I think maybe Missing Link Resin did this air cleaner at some point. I know Kevin at ML posts here sometimes. Maybe get in touch with him to see if he does that air cleaner. Otherwise, that would be a really nice subject for one of the 3D guys to take up. Edited June 28, 2024 by CapSat 6
jmk0303 Posted June 28, 2024 Author Posted June 28, 2024 Great info guys! Thanks. I have one of those Jo-Han Fury police car kits that I will have to dig out and see what the cleaner looks like. I should also see if any ‘67 Fury’s out there had single snorkel cleaners. Wish Jo-Han had put something other than Hemi in this kit. It is pretty nice otherwise.
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