Rolls-Royce No Chemicals, No Paint, No Harmful Glues

[MarkJ]

I think you will have the results you are looking for. Great idea.

[Anglia105E]

1 hour ago, MarkJ said:

I think you will have the results you are looking for. Great idea.

Thanks, and this type of work is more advanced than I would usually get into, but you never know it might just pay off.

David 

[Anglia105E]

Having carefully removed the piece of orange tape, the tiny rectangle of liquid chrome does look quite good. The radiator shell is test fitted and presents well. I think it is unlikely that I shall be able to inscribe the RR logo on the chrome badge, because it would be extremely small.

Photos to follow 

David.

[Anglia105E]

2 minutes ago, Anglia105E said:

Having carefully removed the piece of orange tape, the tiny rectangle of liquid chrome does look quite good. The radiator shell is test fitted and presents well. I think it is unlikely that I shall be able to inscribe the RR logo on the chrome badge, because it would be extremely small.

Photos to follow 

David.

Here are three photos of the badge on the radiator shell. The radiator in front of the bumper is a Franklin Mint diecast part.

[Anglia105E]

The engine bay bulkhead, or firewall, has been given a coat of pale yellow emulsion to represent the Rolls-Royce beige colour. Meanwhile at the rear of the car, several components have been PVA glued in place. These include the two rear light clusters, also the reverse lamp and the number plate plinth. For the rear bumper I used double sided tape to hold it in position.

David 

[MarkJ]

David, you are making great progress. One thing I'm not sure of is the back glass molding around it. Will this be chrome or something else. I must have missed something earlier in the discussion. Model on, I'm liking what I'm seeing.

Mark J.

[Anglia105E]

59 minutes ago, MarkJ said:

David, you are making great progress. One thing I'm not sure of is the back glass molding around it. Will this be chrome or something else. I must have missed something earlier in the discussion. Model on, I'm liking what I'm seeing.

Mark J.

Don't worry, the rear window has a grey rubber seal surrounding it, and as I have probably mentioned before, this is usually given a coat of chrome by model builders who assume that it should be chromed. The rear window seal does not have a chrome molding, and the Franklin Mint diecast model has this correct.

David 

[MarkJ]

14 hours ago, Anglia105E said:

Don't worry, the rear window has a grey rubber seal surrounding it, and as I have probably mentioned before, this is usually given a coat of chrome by model builders who assume that it should be chromed. The rear window seal does not have a chrome molding, and the Franklin Mint diecast model has this correct.

David 

Thanks, David. That clears that up nicely. Wonder why they used grey. You'd think they would have used a black rubber seal. I'm sure they had a good reason for using the grey.

Mark J.

[Anglia105E]

2 hours ago, MarkJ said:

Thanks, David. That clears that up nicely. Wonder why they used grey. You'd think they would have used a black rubber seal. I'm sure they had a good reason for using the grey.

Mark J.

Well Mark, when I say grey I meant to say dark grey, which I guess is close to black. As you can see from the photos, my grey emulsion paint is a bit too light in colour. Thanks for pointing this out and I do see why you were puzzled.

David 

[MarkJ]

8 minutes ago, Anglia105E said:

Well Mark, when I say grey I meant to say dark grey, which I guess is close to black. As you can see from the photos, my grey emulsion paint is a bit too light in colour. Thanks for pointing this out and I do see why you were puzzled.

David 

Didn't want to make more work for you, David. But maybe a touch darker wouldn't hurt?

Mark J.

[Anglia105E]

26 minutes ago, MarkJ said:

Didn't want to make more work for you, David. But maybe a touch darker wouldn't hurt?

Mark J.

I agree with you actually. I can easily apply some thinned black paint over the grey at some point. This will look much better.

David 

[MarkJ]

1 hour ago, Anglia105E said:

I agree with you actually. I can easily apply some thinned black paint over the grey at some point. This will look much better.

David 

Sounds good to me. 

Mark J.

[Anglia105E]

Time has come to study the images of the engine in paper format . . . Specifically, the left hand side of the engine looking forward. Either side of the distributor there can be seen three spark plug leads leading to the front half of the cylinder head, and three further plug leads leading to the rear half of the cylinder head. These plug leads are usually black on the real cars, but I decided they would be more visible if they were made from grey material. Four of the six leads are routed through two black bakelite tubes, so one each side of the distributor itself. The remaining two leads do not pass through the tubes.

While I am not intending to add a huge amount of detail to this fine engine, I would like to add as many detailed features as realistically possible.

The good news is that my old HP laptop has been given a new lease of life. Somehow, I have managed to get the machine up and running on Microsoft Windows 8 and it has no problem running Google Chrome as a browser . . . Posting here on MCM Forums with the laptop is much easier than using the iPad or the mobile phone device.

David

[MarkJ]

Congrats on fixing your computer issues and you are right about detailing. Sometimes too much is just that, too much. Just need enough to add some interest.

Mark J.

[Anglia105E]

1 hour ago, MarkJ said:

Congrats on fixing your computer issues and you are right about detailing. Sometimes too much is just that, too much. Just need enough to add some interest.

Mark J.

Thanks Mark . . . Much of the engine detail will not be easily visible once the two hinged bonnet panels are in place. As long as there is a decent amount of detail then I shall be happy.

David 

[Anglia105E]

Well, partly due to my wife's trip to China, which involved an overnight stay in a hotel on the way to the airport and partly due to difficulties with the engine detailing, there has been a delay of around five days. During this time I didn't make any progress with the Silver Cloud . . . The engine detailing caused the build to stall, as I struggled to work it out in my head.

I decided to step away from the engine detailing and instead it was the roof aerial that got some attention at last. First of all I polished the roof, because there is no way that I shall be attempting to polish the roof panel with the fragile roof aerial in place . . . Having cut a 17 mm length of steel pin for the roof aerial, my next task was to add a small lump of solder to one end of the pin. This was problematic, because there are two things that don't work for me in model building. one being super glue and the other being soldering. Eventually I did manage to attach a blob of solder to the end of the pin, which promptly fell off during the process of fitting the aerial to the roof.

One tiny dot of super glue was placed onto the centre of the roof where it meets the windshield, and I carefully positioned the radio aerial at the desired angle, as well as keeping it at 90° vertically . . . Holding the pin there for what seemed like ages, the super glue just would not grip. After I could hold the piece no longer, the job was done.

Both the roof aerial and the Spirit of Ecstasy mascot are the most fragile parts of this model car, without a doubt. They are extremely prone to breaking off later.

David

[MarkJ]

Man, David. You have that roof looking like a black mirror. Very impressive. If you have trouble keeping that antenna from staying on the roof just drill a hole the same size as the pin and stick it in the hole with a dab of glue.

Mark J.

[Anglia105E]

41 minutes ago, MarkJ said:

Man, David. You have that roof looking like a black mirror. Very impressive. If you have trouble keeping that antenna from staying on the roof just drill a hole the same size as the pin and stick it in the hole with a dab of glue.

Mark J.

Funny thing is Mark, I thought about how I should have drilled a hole AFTER using the glue . . . I won't disturb the antenna now, but if it falls off the roof then I shall use the drill method as suggested !

Thanks for the comment regarding the roof finish, and I am rather pleased with the polishing.

David

[Anglia105E]

Late this evening, I applied a second coat of emulsion to the engine bay rear bulkhead, and also applied a first coat emulsion to the undersides of the two bonnet panels. This is the Earth Balance colour, which is close to the beige colour that I was seeking. Both bonnet / hood panels will need a second coat of emulsion tomorrow.

David

[MarkJ]

David, I applaud the patience that you exhibit in your modeling. That's a hard thing for most modelers to do. They want instant results right now and want to do a complete build in a weekend. Just crank them out like there's no tomorrow. I have to admit; I'm getting a little like that on my current build just because I am longing to get on to my next build as soon as I can.

Mark J

[Anglia105E]

1 hour ago, MarkJ said:

David, I applaud the patience that you exhibit in your modeling. That's a hard thing for most modelers to do. They want instant results right now and want to do a complete build in a weekend. Just crank them out like there's no tomorrow. I have to admit; I'm getting a little like that on my current build just because I am longing to get on to my next build as soon as I can.

Mark J

Well Mark, I completely understand the approach to model building and I myself used to complete a build including full painting in around two months, and sometimes one month . . . These days, my builds typically take 6 or 7 months to one year. This is due to all sorts of reasons, but mostly it is to do with working intensively on one model car which might be in a larger scale of 1:16 or even 1:12 scale. This Rolls-Royce Silver Cloud is 1:24 scale, but I seem to be trying to add detail as though it is a larger scale build, and this is not always realistic . . . Yes, I used to be always looking ahead to the next build, while I was still in the early stages of the current build. My thought process now is to concentrate exclusively on the this one build, and I have no idea what the next build might be. Some model builders do have several builds as works in progress all at the same time, but I prefer to focus on just the one.

As regards the patience Mark, my working life as a technical support engineer in personal computers forced me to tackle problems in a logical and methodical way, which requires an enormous amount of patience. This has turned out to be the perfect mental approach to assembling model cars and also dioramas . . .

David

[Anglia105E]

The undersides of both bonnet / hood panels were allowed to dry fully overnight so that I could remove the excess emulsion paint from the edges of these panels.

By applying hand sanitiser to the edges of the panels with a cotton bud, and then rubbing with a cotton bud dipped in water, the paint came off cleanly.

At this point I put together a mock up for the test fitting of various parts . . . The engine was mounted on a piece of double sided tape in the engine bay on the chassis, and the interior seating tub was clipped into the body, before lowering the body onto the chassis. By moving the radiator grille shell away from the bulkhead the two hinged bonnet panels could then be positioned correctly . . .

Unfortunately, one of the bonnet panel pins broke off in the process, so this needs to be super glued back in place. I am only using tiny amounts of super glue here and there, always mindful of my topic heading !

David

[johnyrotten]

I completely understand the patience side of things David. I tend to build one at a time,improving my skills with each one. Having too many irons on the fire winds up with me side tracked, disorganized and scatterbrained. You've made serious progress here,especially considering the circumstances. Hopefully that pin will hold with the superglue. 

[Anglia105E]

11 hours ago, johnyrotten said:

I completely understand the patience side of things David. I tend to build one at a time,improving my skills with each one. Having too many irons on the fire winds up with me side tracked, disorganized and scatterbrained. You've made serious progress here,especially considering the circumstances. Hopefully that pin will hold with the superglue. 

Thank you John . . . I find it so important to connect with the model car that is on the workbench and to focus all of my thinking on the whole build, As you say, no distractions while keeping well organised . . .

David

[MarkJ]

David, if that pin continues to come off of the hood after super gluing you could drill a hole where the pin was and replace it with a metal pin kind of like the same thing that was an option with the roof antenna. Just a thought.

Mark J.