Albert Moore Posted October 14, 2009 Posted October 14, 2009 Hi Guys, I picked up (er, no pun intended) Revell's 1929 Ford Model A pick up 3 'n 1 kit a couple of weeks and am getting set to start it. What type of engine is in the kit? I know it's an inline four cylinder, but that's about all (need it to do a Google search for references). Thanks for any help/advice in advance. Cheers, Albert
Guest promodmerc Posted October 14, 2009 Posted October 14, 2009 It's the engine that came right out of Henry Ford's plant. Saerch for FORD Model A engine and you should find everything you need.
Albert Moore Posted October 14, 2009 Author Posted October 14, 2009 Hi Dan, Thanks for the help, that'll get me headed in the right direction. Cheers, Albert
Albert Moore Posted October 15, 2009 Author Posted October 15, 2009 the engine in the kit is pretty nice, especially after you strip the chrome from the majority of the components. Replicas and Miniatures company of Maryland makes an awesome under chassis style header for this kit that i'd recommend over the kit's Zoomie style too. Dave Dave, Thanks for the heads up on the R&M header, I'll mosey on over to their website and look it up. I thought about replacing the 4-banger with the engine from the Revell 32' Ford three window coupe, but that type of conversion is above my skill level. Thanks again. Cheers, Albert
george 53 Posted October 15, 2009 Posted October 15, 2009 Dave, Thanks for the heads up on the R&M header, I'll mosey on over to their website and look it up. I thought about replacing the 4-banger with the engine from the Revell 32' Ford three window coupe, but that type of conversion is above my skill level. Thanks again. Cheers, Albert Duh, Albert, It's PLASTIC! It's really NOT beyond your level. Just MAKE it fit! If ya got an old AMT 32 Ford kit layin around, those V-8 engines in them kits have little ears molded on them for engine mounts. If they don't touch the frame just extend 'em a tad and it should fit. If yer buildin for show, then NO it won't fly with the judges i don't think, but if yer doin it for yourself, then who cares! If you WANNA put a 4 banger in it, that's cool too, but myself, I'ma V-8 kinda guy, caz I DON'T want that NUT tryin ta smack me an tellin me I COULDA had one!!!
MikeMc Posted October 15, 2009 Posted October 15, 2009 Then you need a flattie....I stole one from the '32 sedan.....fits great...looks better!!!!!
Nick Winter Posted October 15, 2009 Posted October 15, 2009 I can answer this I was at my uncle's farm yesterday, he has a 1:1 1930 Ford model A 1/2 ton dump truck, it has the 4 cylinders, and the reason I mention this is that the V8 didn't come in the model A's until 1932.
Art Anderson Posted October 15, 2009 Posted October 15, 2009 I can answer this I was at my uncle's farm yesterday, he has a 1:1 1930 Ford model A 1/2 ton dump truck, it has the 4 cylinders, and the reason I mention this is that the V8 didn't come in the model A's until 1932. V8 was never installed in Model A's at the factory.......but rather the '32 Ford Model 18. In fact, Ford commercial models (station wagon, panel delivery, pickup and 1.5 ton trucks) didn't get the V8 until late summer 1932--they were being delivered with the Model B 4-cylinder, itself an improved and more powerful upgrade of the Model A engine. Art
Nick Winter Posted October 15, 2009 Posted October 15, 2009 V8 was never installed in Model A's at the factory.......but rather the '32 Ford Model 18. In fact, Ford commercial models (station wagon, panel delivery, pickup and 1.5 ton trucks) didn't get the V8 until late summer 1932--they were being delivered with the Model B 4-cylinder, itself an improved and more powerful upgrade of the Model A engine. Art Well his dump truck is actually a customized sedan chopped and welded. but on a half ton pickup frame.
FloridaBoy Posted October 16, 2009 Posted October 16, 2009 When Revell came out with this kit years and years ago, I thanked the heavens above for bringing out one of my favorite hot rods. I was still drooling from the old Rod and Custom magazine in 1961 in which one was scratchbuilt and came out pretty well, but that was way beyond my scope then and likely now. When the box art on the first model showed, I thought it was just the roadster pickup, wrong of course, but imagine my joy when I saw that hardtop pickup body and doors........whoa.........now. The only drawback with the model are the headlights. I substituted AMT 29 Ford headlights and that worked just fine. The headlights on the Revell model are chromed built in molded in lenses. As for the motor, I am into just about anything or everything in an "A", from a modified 4 banger to a hemi. Your mind and your expression are your limits to no limits. If you get my drift. Good luck and have a ton of fun building....... Ken "FloridaBoy" Willaman
Harry P. Posted October 16, 2009 Posted October 16, 2009 Albert, I can't add much to the Ford engine discussion... but that car in your sig is pretty cool! May I say you have excellent taste in personal motorized transportation...
Guest promodmerc Posted October 16, 2009 Posted October 16, 2009 I can answer this I was at my uncle's farm yesterday, he has a 1:1 1930 Ford model A 1/2 ton dump truck, it has the 4 cylinders, and the reason I mention this is that the V8 didn't come in the model A's until 1932. The Model A ended in 1931. 1932-1935 they were Model B's.
Art Anderson Posted October 17, 2009 Posted October 17, 2009 The Model A ended in 1931. 1932-1935 they were Model B's. Model B was what Ford called their 4-cylinder 1932 cars, which were identical in every respect to the V8, or Model 18, except for the engine, and the badging (V8's had V8 emblems on the headlight bar and hubcaps, B's had no emblem on the headlight bar, Ford "Oval" on the hubcaps. A Model B engine is distinguishable from a Model A by the elimination of the oil overflow pipe on the left side valve galley cover, and a two-bolt attachment for the water pump, along with vacuum spark advance on the distributor (Model A still used manual spark advance, the right side lever underneath the steering wheel). Ford continued to offer the Model B engine in 1933-34, but with what they called the Model C crankshaft, which was counterweighted, the 4-cylinder being dropped from production mid-year in 1934, due to miniscule sales of it. From that time, until late in the model year 1940, Ford only offered V8's in the US, then introduced a small 4-banger that summer, pulled from their very successful 9N farm tractor. This 4cyl was offered until the end of civilian car and truck production in late January 1942. Art
Eshaver Posted October 17, 2009 Posted October 17, 2009 By the way Art- you can still get re- build parts for this engine easier than you can for most MODERN cars too ! Ed Shaver
Albert Moore Posted October 17, 2009 Author Posted October 17, 2009 Thanks for all the info y'all have provided in regards to the engine information in this kit, and to Dave for the aftermarket bits available. I may take the plunge and try adding another motor. If it doesn't work, I have another kit standing by. I think I'm going to go for a low key look with this (chrome steelies for the rims, tires from the '32 three window kit, simplistic paint job, etc). @ Harry- If I could own a current generation Mustang GT, the Bullitt edition would be it. I really like the no-frills look of the body but the performance of its GT brethren (and then some!). Thanks again! Cheers, Albert
Art Anderson Posted October 17, 2009 Posted October 17, 2009 By the way Art- you can still get re- build parts for this engine easier than you can for most MODERN cars too ! Ed Shaver Yup, When I rebuilt a Model A engine back in the 60's, the only expensive parts were the pistons, and that set of 4 was $50 or so. A new set of valve springs made for Model A's was like $27, but in the exchange book, we found the exact same spring used as the camshaft thrust spring for the Dodge 241cid Hemi, and bought that way, only a dollar per spring! About the only rebuilding parts not available over the counter back then were the main and rod bearings, as those were cast in place, with babbitt--kinda like molding molten solder on to tinned cast iron. Insert bearing kits are now available for the A engine, but I think I'd just as soon have poured ones. Art
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