Older diesel engine question

[Aaronw]

I bought a couple of Ford truck books and it mentions the first Ford trucks got diesels in 1961 (H) and 62 (C, F). They don't get too specific though, it says the heavy trucks used a Cummins, I'm guessing maybe NHC-250? Is that engine old enough to be in a truck from the early 60s? Anyone know if it was used in any Fords?

It also says the medium duty trucks used a Cummins V-6 or V-8, the only engine that I can find any info on that sounds likely is the V / VT series (Vim, Vine etc) but I find very little about these, not even a photo. Is anyone familiar with these engines?

It also says the lighter medium duty trucks used a Ford of Great Britain built diesel and I can't find anything to even guess at what ths was.

Later (1968?) they put Cats in the C series V150-V225 based on the Caterpillar 1100 series motors. In the 70s they replaced these with the 3208. Was the 3208 related at all to the 1100?

I'm looking for options to use in the Ford C kit and other than the 3208 and NHC-250, I don't know of a source for these engines.

Finally does anyone know of a good diesel engine history site? I like older trucks the best and I can't find a whole lot out there on what trucks ran in the 50s and 60s other than DD 4-71, & 6-71.

Thanks

[Jim B]

As far as the Ford H-Series, the Cummins NHC-250 is probably too big. From the 1961 bruchure the Cummins engines that were offered in the Ford H-Series were NH-180, NH-195, NH-220, NHE-180, & NHE-195. You might be able to make one from a NHC-250.

Ford Brochure

[modeltrucker]

The 1100 hundred series and 3208 are simaler in size the big difference is the 1100 used an inline injection pump and the 3208 used a v type pump hope this helps

[Aaronw]

Thanks, so I guess the C & F series must have run the mysterious Cummins V / VT series engines and the even more mysterious UK build diesel.

I guess I'll have to find some pics of Cat engines to see what the difference is between the injector pumps. From what I have the 1140/45 was 522 cid, the 1150/60 was 573 cid and the 3208 is 636 cid so it seems possible they all used the same block which would save a lot of time and trouble.

[modeltrucker]

Thanks, so I guess the C & F series must have run the mysterious Cummins V / VT series engines and the even more mysterious UK build diesel.

I guess I'll have to find some pics of Cat engines to see what the difference is between the injector pumps. From what I have the 1140/45 was 522 cid, the 1150/60 was 573 cid and the 3208 is 636 cid so it seems possible they all used the same block which would save a lot of time and trouble.

The3208 block is simaler but not the same as the 1100 series.I have a the factory 1100 series repair manual from caterpilliar for trade, was going to sell it on ebay.

[Aaronw]

The3208 block is simaler but not the same as the 1100 series.I have a the factory 1100 series repair manual from caterpilliar for trade, was going to sell it on ebay.

I don't think I really have the space to start collecting shop manuals for my models.

Any chance I could get you to make a copy of a couple useful pages like an exploded drawings or dimensional data? I'm sure I could find something around here to swap for that.

[modeltrucker]

I'll see what Ican do.

james from cleveland

[Aaronw]

Ok, I've found a little more info on the mystery motors. Apparently the Cummins was the C series, a 464 cid inline 6 available with 160 or 180 hp. The Ford UK motor was a 363 cid inline 6 called the Dorsett.