Chuck Most Posted December 9, 2009 Author Posted December 9, 2009 Wish my back yard was full of old International trucks! The last Travelalls look like they'd be easy to scratchbuild, maybe with a few kit parts tossed in to ease the work. Then again, I've been wrong in the past. I thought adding the detailed chassis from the AMT '66 Riviera to the older, '69 kit would be a piece of cake. It so isn't! That one's been unfinished in the box for two years now.
chuckyr Posted December 9, 2009 Posted December 9, 2009 If IH had survived the 1980s, they most assuredly would have competed successfully in the SUV era 1990s.
disabled modeler Posted December 9, 2009 Posted December 9, 2009 Hi Dave, that is one awesome collection you have there!!!!! years ago my brother had an old 48 International KB2 pickup with the knox bed. we fixed her up a little bit and he drove it around for a while then sold it a few years back....it was red with a red primed bed,old girl was in pretty good shape.....i hated to see him sell it. had the old triple diamond engine, thing ran great. ive always loved the IH stuff, i have a very poorly built IH farm tractor model that i hope to find the parts to repair someday.....i think they must have used 2 tubes of glue on her, gives you an idea on the work i got cut-out for me on that one. ive been to Fort Madison many times.....is your place the scout connection? my brother has been there before but i havent. he said it was a cool place. thanks mark
disabled modeler Posted December 9, 2009 Posted December 9, 2009 Hi Chuckyr, nice photos..........beautiful batch of trucks! someone needs to make them for us to build...........mark
disabled modeler Posted December 9, 2009 Posted December 9, 2009 Hey cargostar.......that stretched rescue unit is too cool!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! love that one! its just awesome ..............mark
cargostar Posted December 10, 2009 Posted December 10, 2009 You nailed it. The Scout Connection. www.scoutconnection.com I'm kind of the jack of all trades around here, everything but the owner!
disabled modeler Posted December 10, 2009 Posted December 10, 2009 Hi cargostar, i zipped it , you have probably talked to my brother on occasions but its been years ago.......he said it was cool.....hes right! now he has some old cars that hes having title problems with here in IL. as i will with my inherited one someday. i hate IL. . i really do wish they would produce a travelall, id pull my own teeth to get one and i think others would as well, it would just take me longer to pull those teeth. anyway cool trucks...........mark
disabled modeler Posted December 10, 2009 Posted December 10, 2009 Hi carostar.............ive had an idea rolling around in my head for a few years now of a build i want to do,late 60s suburban to put in front of a trailer for a diorama i want to build. been gathering parts for it for awhile now, i know someone makes a resin kit of this but its beyond my budget so ill have to try to make my own. the travelall i wouldnt know what parts to start with to try to scratch build one.........but would like to. the shape they have is quite unique and cant think of anything with parts even close to its shape..............would be cool though. mark
cargostar Posted December 10, 2009 Posted December 10, 2009 Unfortunatly, there is nothing like the shape of a Travelall out there. I started a pick-up many years ago, with the hope of building a T/A next, but, I never finished it, and my talents have improved so much, I'd want to start over anyways.
Chuck Most Posted December 10, 2009 Author Posted December 10, 2009 Unfortunatly, there is nothing like the shape of a Travelall out there. I started a pick-up many years ago, with the hope of building a T/A next, but, I never finished it, and my talents have improved so much, I'd want to start over anyways. Years ago, there was a resin medium duty IH truck... can't remember what model... but it had the '69-'75 style truck cab. I've long thought of locating two of them- one to build as is, and the other to donate it's cab to an IH Pickup buildup. I believe the guy who cast it is named Dave Natale, and he's still doing resin castings, but the cab I'm thinking of is no longer in production. You are very right Dave... there's absolutely nothing else that comes close to the Travelall in kit form! Believe me, I've looked...
chuckyr Posted December 10, 2009 Posted December 10, 2009 Years ago, there was a resin medium duty IH truck... can't remember what model... but it had the '69-'75 style truck cab. I've long thought of locating two of them- one to build as is, and the other to donate it's cab to an IH Pickup buildup. I believe the guy who cast it is named Dave Natale, and he's still doing resin castings, but the cab I'm thinking of is no longer in production. You are very right Dave... there's absolutely nothing else that comes close to the Travelall in kit form! Believe me, I've looked... I doubt if it was Dave Natale. Dave owns AITM model parts and tends to be a Mack expert. There was a business back in the late 1980s and 1990s called Pinecrest, out of western Pennsylvania that offered some International resin pieces.
disabled modeler Posted December 10, 2009 Posted December 10, 2009 Hi............thats a bummer..........ill see what i can find on the names, thanks. mark
cargostar Posted December 11, 2009 Posted December 11, 2009 It is still available from Dave @AITM. Its the Fleetstar. It shares the same basic cab shell, BUT, the roof is taller, the floor is different and the firewall/lower cowl is different also. When I started mine, I used the Fleetstar cab as a base, and built a front end. The thing I really don't like, (which I think it has been improved) was that the cab was close to 3/8" thick!!! I'll see if I can dig up whats left of it and get a pic or two.
chuckyr Posted December 11, 2009 Posted December 11, 2009 It is still available from Dave @AITM. Its the Fleetstar. It shares the same basic cab shell, BUT, the roof is taller, the floor is different and the firewall/lower cowl is different also. When I started mine, I used the Fleetstar cab as a base, and built a front end. The thing I really don't like, (which I think it has been improved) was that the cab was close to 3/8" thick!!! I'll see if I can dig up whats left of it and get a pic or two. Ok he did remaster it. The new resin casting is nice and thin. http://www.aitruckmodels.com/pages/kitsparts.html
disabled modeler Posted December 11, 2009 Posted December 11, 2009 Hi...........wow! now that resin cab is coooooool ! so is the finished yellow truck! would look cool with an old fuel tank i have on its back. mark
cargostar Posted December 11, 2009 Posted December 11, 2009 I thought he had. I haven't seen one since its remaster, so I can't say how thin it is. I try to keep my cabs 0.040"-0.060" thick. I found my cab last night and started remembering all of the other flaws. The drip rail tapers down to the back of the cab, no body line in the doors, etc., etc., I'll post pics later.
Chuck Most Posted December 11, 2009 Author Posted December 11, 2009 (edited) Fleetstar! That's it! I knew the roof crown was taller than on the pickups (the Loadstars were also), and I knew I'd need to rehash the cowl area, but still, I think it would be easier to use this cab on a pickup than to scratchbuild or modify a kit part, even given the resin cab's flaws. And, once you've gotten to THAT point, building a Travelall wouldn't be such an impossible dream, since you'd pretty much have a front half for the body right there! Sheesh- never knew the original was 3/8" thick... my, hasn't resin casting come a long way?! Edited December 11, 2009 by Chuck Most
cargostar Posted December 11, 2009 Posted December 11, 2009 Here you go! Like I said, I'm not happy with it. I think I'll start fresh. I had a bed half done too, but I can't find it.....
Chuck Most Posted December 12, 2009 Author Posted December 12, 2009 Well, it might be workable. Just might need a little more TLC than I thought. Still, once you get a pickup, a Travelall doesn't seem like such a stretch. Yours looks quite a bit better than my false starts with scratchbuilding one! Or, an idea I've had for years- take a Travelall, cut out the rear door area, weld it back together, and bingo- A phanom 'Travelall Sport', something IH could've used to compete against the K5 and Ramharger!
cargostar Posted December 12, 2009 Posted December 12, 2009 You mean kind of like this???? This is one we finished restoring this summer. 1973 Wagonmaster, 1/2 ton 4x4.
Chuck Most Posted December 12, 2009 Author Posted December 12, 2009 You mean kind of like this???? No... but I'll take it anyway! That one's more like IH's take on the SuperCrew and Sport Trac! Wonder what International's answer to the Navagator and Escalade would've been like? (A station-wagon Mohs, is my guess!)
cargostar Posted December 12, 2009 Posted December 12, 2009 Well, after the Scout got axed in'80, a lot of the designers ended up at Chrysler..... We have a book around here somewhere that has a bunch of design sketches for the Scout. Most of them have a VERY similar appearance to Chryslers first generation mini-vans..... Now remember, back when the Wagon master was dreamed up (1972) the designers of the Sport-trac, and the Avalance, were probably riding around in an IH....in their infant seat!!! We did a Travelall a few years back that was an engineering prototype. It was a '74, and it had anti-lock brakes, reaf heat and a/c, power windows and locks, and a power moon roof!! All were slated to come into production untill the pick-ups and Travelalls were dropped in '75
disabled modeler Posted December 12, 2009 Posted December 12, 2009 Hi cargostar.........the photo of the wagonmaster is cool ! the body you started is not a bad start ether.......see i thought someone should make /produce a travelall................mark
cargostar Posted December 12, 2009 Posted December 12, 2009 Nope, never worked for IH. I know lots of people that have, from assembly line, to salesmen, engineers, mechanics, credit corp., etc. Plus around here all we do is IH, so, there is a combined 75-plus years of experience and info in the people i work with. Not to mention 16' of floor to ceiling bookshelves filled with books!
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