hotrod59f100 Posted January 31, 2012 Posted January 31, 2012 I seen these kits all the time built as gassers or pro streets. I just wondered if anybody built them stock?
62rebel Posted January 31, 2012 Posted January 31, 2012 the chassis in them isn't stock, which magnifies the problem of backdating them, as well as correct engines and interiors, but there have been some back-to-stock conversions done.
hotrod59f100 Posted January 31, 2012 Author Posted January 31, 2012 Yeah I know I just would like to see one semi stock once in a wile.
jbwelda Posted January 31, 2012 Posted January 31, 2012 you rang? well its close but not exactly an anglia...
hotrod59f100 Posted January 31, 2012 Author Posted January 31, 2012 Nowthats cool. I like the paint on that. Btw is that name referring to lotus or something else?
62rebel Posted January 31, 2012 Posted January 31, 2012 that emblem on the driver's side and on the back door is the Lotus icon.... i'd hazard a guess that truck isn't running a flathead four cylinder. that "other" model car magazine ran an article on a modeler who specialized in "restoring" these rods to stock a long time ago.... that modeler is more than likely a member here who hasn't chimed in yet. the AMT '33 Willys are difficult to backdate because of the flip front end and the widened hood panels to clear the V8's. Revell's Anglia based kits are a good starting point but still need extensive reworking; their Stone/Woods/Cook Willys has a nonstock frame but the body is proportioned correctly. they all might lend themselves to curbside stock if you just replace the frame with styrene stock.
hotrod59f100 Posted January 31, 2012 Author Posted January 31, 2012 that emblem on the driver's side and on the back door is the Lotus icon.... i'd hazard a guess that truck isn't running a flathead four cylinder. that "other" model car magazine ran an article on a modeler who specialized in "restoring" these rods to stock a long time ago.... that modeler is more than likely a member here who hasn't chimed in yet. the AMT '33 Willys are difficult to backdate because of the flip front end and the widened hood panels to clear the V8's. Revell's Anglia based kits are a good starting point but still need extensive reworking; their Stone/Woods/Cook Willys has a nonstock frame but the body is proportioned correctly. they all might lend themselves to curbside stock if you just replace the frame with styrene stock. Yeah I figured it would be a pain but it's nice to see a different side of things.
jbwelda Posted February 1, 2012 Posted February 1, 2012 >that emblem on the driver's side correction...that would be the passengers side but you were right about one thing, it dont have the flathead 4 in it...but it doesnt have a ridiculous looking big ole supercharged hemi either: thanks for the comments and glad you liked it shane!
hotrod59f100 Posted February 1, 2012 Author Posted February 1, 2012 >that emblem on the driver's side correction...that would be the passengers side but you were right about one thing, it dont have the flathead 4 in it...but it doesnt have a ridiculous looking big ole supercharged hemi either: thanks for the comments and glad you liked it shane! Is that a true loutus eng or a converted?
impcon Posted February 1, 2012 Posted February 1, 2012 I too have oft times wondered how difficult it would be to build one of these in stock form as they;d make a cutie in a display. I have the resin Morris Traveller and I would like to make it look stock but it's a big project - to me it is, anyways. It'll likely be a curbside if it ever does get built. The '50 Austin sedan would also be cute in stock form.. I remember my dad had one of those as a loaner when he was having the engine in his '59 Chevy wqagon rebuilt. The thing was a hoot to ride in and I have always wanted a real one. Anyy leads on write ups onhow to build these in something even close to stock form would be appreciated.
jbwelda Posted February 1, 2012 Posted February 1, 2012 >Is that a true loutus eng or a converted? not sure what you mean but it is a white metal copy of the (i presume) gunze motor that came with the high tech with motor lotus elan. stuff polishes up very nicely. i think it was made by southeast finecast in england but not positive. even if it wasnt and you dont know that company, google it and see what you find. about your earlier question on the other side graphics (done, by the way, not by me but my friend Jerry Amaral), the image is skewed in photoshop to avoid offending some sensibilities. if you get my drift. jerry did a very nice job on the graphics, i designed them but he executed them. this van was more or less modeled after one i saw in london one day, didnt have my camera so i just had a quick impression in my head to go from. the thames itself is nowhere near "stock" but much more than the kit it was sourced from, the simple simon pie truck of course.
hotrod59f100 Posted February 1, 2012 Author Posted February 1, 2012 (edited) That's what I was wondering . Edited February 1, 2012 by hotrod59f100
Eshaver Posted February 2, 2012 Posted February 2, 2012 Here is Revell's 41 Willys Americar coupe in Chesapeak Blue : This is A M T's Willys truck : Ed Shaver
Chuck Most Posted February 2, 2012 Posted February 2, 2012 Best part is for a Willys- you can raid the engine from the MPC/AMT Hogan's Heroes jeep for the stock engine.
62rebel Posted February 2, 2012 Posted February 2, 2012 somebody did a backdate of the Revell Henry J that would knock your socks off.... i wish i had the magazine i saw it in. stockers from dragsters is a challenge anytime!
jbwelda Posted February 3, 2012 Posted February 3, 2012 i remember seeing that henry j and just being amazed. very detailed as i remember. that some heroic work!
Art Anderson Posted February 3, 2012 Posted February 3, 2012 Actually, the original Revell Stone, Woods & Cook '41 Willys coupe, AND the AMT '40 Willys coupe and convertible do have a stock Willys chassis under them--that was the way Willys gassers were built back in the 60's--I think they even had basically the stock Willys front axles as well. In addition, a stock Willys "Go Devil" flathead 4-banger is readily available as well--it's the engine in the Hogans Heroes Willys M38/CJ2A jeep kit! Even the suspension in those three Willys gasser kits is basically stock in planform--although the leaf springs are arched more severely--those cars used parallel leaf springs front and rear. As for the Ford Thames--Revell's body shell is very very close to stock if not pretty much accurate for stock. Skipper's Critter and the Pie Wagon kit bodies should be a great place to start, and I bet with a bit of research online, and/or in books, even brochures, one could come up with enough info to create the stock frame, floor pans and interiors. Engines might be a different matter altogether though. English Ford Thames: And, just for giggles, an Anglia UTE! These two were found in the car corral at Kruse Auction Grounds, Auburn IN, 9/3/04. Art
hotrod59f100 Posted February 9, 2012 Author Posted February 9, 2012 (edited) Looks good Ed .hey Art those look vary nice .i didn't know the made a ute. Edited February 9, 2012 by hotrod59f100
59 Impala Posted February 9, 2012 Posted February 9, 2012 (edited) Here's one that I saved from the bone yard. It took over 20 some odd years to find a trunk lid for it and I used parts from other cars to get it road ready. The front axel is from a 40 Ford coupe, the rear axel and springs are from a 56 Chevy, and the front bumper is from the 40 Ford truck. The engine is from one of the flat fender Jeeps of WWII. Dan Edited February 9, 2012 by 59 Impala
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