Stang88 Posted February 2, 2012 Posted February 2, 2012 Most people use bare metal foil chrome for the window trim, etc on muscle car models. What if bare metal foil was not available any longer?...what would people do or use as a replacement? Has anyone tried other methods like painting the trim, chrome marker if such a thing exist. I am very interested in other methods people have tried with success.
Scale-Master Posted February 2, 2012 Posted February 2, 2012 (edited) You mean step back in time and use kitchen foil, chrome silver paint and Alclad? I do like the paint in some of the markers, just don't care for the delivery system... Edited February 2, 2012 by Scale-Master
SuperStockAndy Posted February 2, 2012 Posted February 2, 2012 I'd just spray adhesive on kitchen foil.
scalenut Posted February 2, 2012 Posted February 2, 2012 cheap aluminum foil ,, the cheaper the better
Stang88 Posted February 2, 2012 Author Posted February 2, 2012 how do you use kitchen tin foil? how do you get it to stick? Is it just as easy to work with as bare metal foil?
LoneWolf15 Posted February 2, 2012 Posted February 2, 2012 Why go backwards ? Bare metal foil is the best thing on the market , so use it !
moparmagiclives Posted February 2, 2012 Posted February 2, 2012 Didn't BMF come out so you don't have to use tin foil and glue. I hear this stuff already had the glue on it. And it comes in all sorts of shades and finishes. Silver sharpies work good for door panels and such, but not quite like foil for trim work.
Scale-Master Posted February 2, 2012 Posted February 2, 2012 I'd just spray adhesive on kitchen foil. Have you done that? What adhesive did you use? Or "plan to use"?
moparmagiclives Posted February 2, 2012 Posted February 2, 2012 Have you done that? What adhesive did you use? Or "plan to use"? 3m ..... The big can.
scalenut Posted February 2, 2012 Posted February 2, 2012 Why go backwards ? Bare metal foil is the best thing on the market , so use it ! the question was ,, what would you use if bare metal foil was no longer available
Lownslow Posted February 2, 2012 Posted February 2, 2012 Why go backwards ? Bare metal foil is the best thing on the market , so use it ! cost, other than flexibility i dont notice the difference
SuperStockAndy Posted February 2, 2012 Posted February 2, 2012 Have you done that? What adhesive did you use? Or "plan to use"? ...Whatever I could find.
scalenut Posted February 2, 2012 Posted February 2, 2012 I sprayed the car, just masked around the windows, you have to cover everything , that spray gets everywhere. maybe I should be spraying the foil ?
moparmagiclives Posted February 2, 2012 Posted February 2, 2012 The "big can" part was a cheap shot at carpet glue, no you don't want to use that. I had a can of glue from the paint/body supply shop along time ago.it was a pretty thin tried it once, then found someone who sold bmf....
Scottnkat Posted February 2, 2012 Posted February 2, 2012 Micro-Scale makes a very nice foil adhesive. I've used that myself. It's best with cheap dollar store foil - don't get the good stuff - it's too thick
Scale-Master Posted February 2, 2012 Posted February 2, 2012 ...Whatever I could find. There you go again Andy, acting like you know how something should be done and offering poor advice without a foundation. The 3M adhesive is (as mentioned) too thick and imparts a texture, kind of like a vinyl top, but not in scale. I have yet to find any sprayable adhesive that works as well as the Micro Metal Foil Adhesive. It is a great product. Been using it since before it was sold publicly. The trick is to apply it uniformly and with no dirt, and let it fully dry. Any imperfection will show through. And clean your brush before it dries! Do not try to airbrush it on. (Well, you can, just don't be surprised with the mess...) The Reynolds heavy duty foil is way too thick; the light duty stuff works best for trim. But for interior panels it has its place. I have tried Post-It glue too. No recommendation for that experiment. Not enough tack.
SuperStockAndy Posted February 2, 2012 Posted February 2, 2012 There you go again Andy, acting like you know how something should be done and offering poor advice without a foundation. Jeez, he asked a legitimate question and I gave a legitimate answer! These are my poor builds, not your "pristine" builds.
SuperStockAndy Posted February 2, 2012 Posted February 2, 2012 (edited) Wow, you guys must love aluminum foil and spray adhesive to drag it into all that. i'm not sure you realize either how lucky you are in this day and age to have access to accomplished builders like Mark and others who post online. when i was your age there was no internet, no access to these guys other than to write into a magazine and hope that it got read and to the person you wanted it to get to, then hope that they responded by mail or maybe even posted your letter in the magazine with an answer. now with the internet pretty much any question you have is within minutes if not seconds from being answered and by people who truly are the best in the hobby. that right there is pretty freaking awesome! i get the impression though that you really don't appreciate how lucky you are. Yeah, I know. You also forgot about a library.... But it still makes me mad, I've heard of other people using foil and spray adhesive, now they don't get barked at do they? Edited February 2, 2012 by SuperStockAndy
moparmagiclives Posted February 2, 2012 Posted February 2, 2012 I woud have given ANYTHING to have the minds of today, at my finger tips growing up in the late 90s in highschool. Now with life and a family its still great to get the chance to talk to the masters here, as well as other forums, ie..coast airbrush...but man, If had had the chance to do it when I was 13,15 years old...things may have turned out a little differently. That was a very good point Dave.
moparmagiclives Posted February 2, 2012 Posted February 2, 2012 Yeah, I know. You also forgot about a library.... Thats fine if you dont want to ask any questions, and hope they have a book with what you need to know already done up and ready for you.
Scale-Master Posted February 2, 2012 Posted February 2, 2012 (edited) Wow, you guys must love aluminum foil and spray adhesive to drag it into all that. Yeah, I know. You also forgot about a library.... But it still makes me mad, I've heard of other people using foil and spray adhesive, now they don't get barked at do they? That illustates one of my points perfectly Andy. "I've heard of other people using foil and spray adhesive" "Heard of" and even "read about" are not the same as actually having hands on experience. When you offer your "advice" it is really parroted information that you don't really know if it works or not. Maybe "they" don't get barked at because "they" offer it in a context that relates to them actually having experience? By the way, who are "they"? You seem to want to be respected for having knowledge, it is normal, but respect is earned and you will never get it by constantly acting like you know something about everything, especially at the rate you are being proven wrong. Plus you may unwittingly advise someone who is not aware that you don't know what you are talking about to do something that causes them to damage their model. Not cool. And thanks Dave for pointing out that my screen name is not what I consider myself, it is just the name I make decal art under. Edited February 2, 2012 by Scale-Master
eviltwincustoms Posted February 2, 2012 Posted February 2, 2012 Hey Mark, by chance have you used Microscale "Micro Metal Foil Adhesive"? I have used that with some really thin foil not the Bare Metal foil stuff, similar to what others are saying about using aluminum foil. I found this to work in a semi OK fashion and still give you a decent result. However... this is my fancy "Butt" I did find it to not last long, as the adhesion wasn't as good as it could have been. I found it to let go after awhile.
Eshaver Posted February 2, 2012 Posted February 2, 2012 A/C guys use a shiny however thick self adhesive tape to do ductwork . In some cases , I prefer the use of this product as opposed to Bare Metal foil . Then too, there are times I use a Silver "Sharpie " marker in some circumstances too. Ed Shaver
eviltwincustoms Posted February 2, 2012 Posted February 2, 2012 A/C guys use a shiny however thick self adhesive tape to do ductwork . In some cases , I prefer the use of this product as opposed to Bare Metal foil . Then too, there are times I use a Silver "Sharpie " marker in some circumstances too. Ed Shaver Great point, I use this stuff as well for like brackets to wrap around something and such, but from a scale perspective how does this stuff fair in the thickness area for window chrome trim?
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