old-hermit Posted July 6, 2012 Share Posted July 6, 2012 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junkman Posted July 7, 2012 Share Posted July 7, 2012 The trouble with these international affairs is that they attract those foreign types. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CorvairJim Posted July 7, 2012 Share Posted July 7, 2012 If we are going to go that route then, we are all foreigner's , so this whole where the all the first owners of said company's are from is pointless. Hold on a second there! I'm 1/16 Cherokee, so I'm a foreign model made here in the U.S. with some domestic content! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Longbox55 Posted July 7, 2012 Share Posted July 7, 2012 (edited) Hold on a second there! I'm 1/16 Cherokee, so I'm a foreign model made here in the U.S. with some domestic content! Me too! I've got Cherokee on my Great Grandmothers side. Rest is Prussian, German, and Scots-Irish. Wow, we're WAAAAYYYYY of topic now! Edited July 7, 2012 by Longbox55 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sleeper Posted July 7, 2012 Share Posted July 7, 2012 o.k. I will say this.lets take us back in time shall we.It was mid's 70's when we had our first," as I remember"our first gas".Crisis lines around the block,odd days/ even days,at this time people was thinking to go light on there cars not heavy like Cady's I know because at the time my friend mom had hers and she loved it at the time.Also at this time period,What i saw demonstration how union'steamsters always are on strike for making $20-$30 an hour better benefits more hours so for so for.List goes on and on,Until an engineer came the big three that can save everybody there job in a timely structure way.the big 3 say it was impossible because we just signed the contracts for the union's so the engineer took his work and his ideas to another country he must of spent countless hours on a plane going to Western Europe and other countries finally he saw an opportunity at japan.He sold his ideas to them because of there dedication and there loyalty there big japan firms are now on the move where the big 3 in amerca trying to get through the contracts.GUESS WHAT!!!!It is now the 80's all of the sudden the big 3 are now facing millions of jobs loses, because at the time everybody is buying Toyota or Nissan or Honda..(Geeez ) what the hell happen now its recession time and we Amaerican's are starting to get angry at these japanese which hate to say it we are the ones are causing the problem not them they took an idea from an american and work with it.now in the 90's NAFTA FREE TRADE AGREEMENT.Here we are trying to make our selves look good and all we do is complain about buy american when all this time when people don't understand of change they still be in first gear and here we are pushing., and" I hate to say this" but we do have neighbors now"its global"its the higher political parties who decide our faith we put them there for a reason,move with the transition people because if you don't there will be powers will say enough we will do our way.and geeeeez then all of the sudden we ask them to be voted out or worst,so for now i just sit back and shake my head as of no.Here we go again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jairus Posted July 7, 2012 Share Posted July 7, 2012 I think the original post meant by "American Car", that they were Made in America! Even the Indians migrated here at some time in the past over the ice bridge or the Bairing Strait. So please dispense with the nationality stuff about who was what. Henry Ford was an American citizen. The Dodge Brothers were American citizens. They and other helped make this a great industrial and prosperous nation. I print t-shirts. Some of our blank shirts come out of Honduras through an American t-shirt distributor "Sanmar". The companies that make them are American, only the workers are Honduran. That is called "off-shoring" by the way. But the profits go to America. We also buy shirts made in America only. The quality is the same as those made by the Hondurans but they are more expensive by half. Most of the profits of those companies go to union workers in my opinion. Made in America means the car was made on these shores even if some of the parts or bits were sourced from other countries that assembled the electric motors, circuit boards or wove the cloth for the seats. It's still made in America even if Wong bolted in in the seats, Juan programed the computer or Sven laid the wiring harness in on the assembly line! Melting pot so get used to it! But that doesn't mean it's the best or the fastest or the strongest. Just that it's made here. Global community so get used to it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danno Posted July 7, 2012 Share Posted July 7, 2012 I think the original post meant by "American Car", that they were Made in America! Even the Indians migrated here at some time in the past over the ice bridge or the Bairing Strait. So please dispense with the nationality stuff about who was what. Henry Ford was an American citizen. The Dodge Brothers were American citizens. They and other helped make this a great industrial and prosperous nation. I print t-shirts. Some of our blank shirts come out of Honduras through an American t-shirt distributor "Sanmar". The companies that make them are American, only the workers are Honduran. That is called "off-shoring" by the way. But the profits go to America. We also buy shirts made in America only. The quality is the same as those made by the Hondurans but they are more expensive by half. Most of the profits of those companies go to union workers in my opinion. Made in America means the car was made on these shores even if some of the parts or bits were sourced from other countries that assembled the electric motors, circuit boards or wove the cloth for the seats. It's still made in America even if Wong bolted in in the seats, Juan programed the computer or Sven laid the wiring harness in on the assembly line! Melting pot so get used to it! But that doesn't mean it's the best or the fastest or the strongest. Just that it's made here. Global community so get used to it. I'll agree with you in large part, Jairus, except for one small point ... "Most of the profits of those companies go to union workers in my opinion." No, most of the profits go to union bosses, union managers, union "organizers," and campaign contributions and other paybacks the union bosses make to the political hacks they own. Union workers actually get a very, very small slice of the union pie. Otherwise, I think you're basically right! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maltsr Posted July 7, 2012 Share Posted July 7, 2012 After reading this thread yesterday, I Googled 'American oil imports' and discovered that 58% of your petroleum was imported in 2007. If Americans are so concerned about local content in their cars, would they refuse to fill their tanks with petrol (gas) imported from Mexico, Canada, Venezuela and the Middle East? You might be spending more on imported gas than you are on imported parts each year! Speaking as a 'foreigner', we are all proud of cars produced by our own countries - I used to buy 'British' cars even though they were not 100% British. I'm sure something similar applies to our other 'foreign' members too from France, Germany et al. My passion was (and still is) Fords, and although I knew they were ultimately American, cars such as Anglias, Escorts and Cortinas were not marketed/built over there, so I regarded them as 'English' Fords. Later they became increasingly 'European' but I still purchased them. Very few manufactured items are 100% local, get used to it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sleeper Posted July 8, 2012 Share Posted July 8, 2012 aint' it a viscous circle how we try to make the world a better place. i guess my world looks pretty good after all ,thanks i will keep looking at this thread.and soon "maybe" post a new thread of my latest build. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roadkill2525 Posted July 10, 2012 Share Posted July 10, 2012 REALLY? You DID NOT just write that! If I didn't then who the hell did? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Modelmartin Posted July 10, 2012 Share Posted July 10, 2012 Not trying to start an argument or anyhting, but Henry Ford was Irish, Henry's Father moved to Ireland when he couldn't make a go of it in England. They are English. The only people on Earth who are truly indigenous are some East Africans. Everyone else migrated at some point. We are the original invasive species!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmvw guy Posted July 10, 2012 Share Posted July 10, 2012 (edited) After reading this thread yesterday, I Googled 'American oil imports' and discovered that 58% of your petroleum was imported in 2007. If Americans are so concerned about local content in their cars, would they refuse to fill their tanks with petrol (gas) imported from Mexico, Canada, Venezuela and the Middle East? You might be spending more on imported gas than you are on imported parts each year! Speaking as a 'foreigner', we are all proud of cars produced by our own countries - I used to buy 'British' cars even though they were not 100% British. I'm sure something similar applies to our other 'foreign' members too from France, Germany et al. My passion was (and still is) Fords, and although I knew they were ultimately American, cars such as Anglias, Escorts and Cortinas were not marketed/built over there, so I regarded them as 'English' Fords. Later they became increasingly 'European' but I still purchased them. Very few manufactured items are 100% local, get used to it! ...Very well said and I 100% agree with your last statement , as others have said on this thread it is a "Global" market now. I wish people in the States would look at it the way you do on foreign oil! We always called Anglias "English Fords", and as you probably well know they made wonderful drag cars here and I don't think anyone complained about them being foreign cars at the Drags.. Wish I had one! Edited July 10, 2012 by rmvw guy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Longbox55 Posted July 10, 2012 Share Posted July 10, 2012 Henry's Father moved to Ireland when he couldn't make a go of it in England. They are English. The only people on Earth who are truly indigenous are some East Africans. Everyone else migrated at some point. We are the original invasive species!! Henry Fords father, William Ford, was born in County Cork Ireland. However, you are correct about the family originally being from England. As for the Chevrolet Brothers, Gaston was the only one born in France. Louis and Arthur were both born in Switzerland. Sources vary about where the family is originally from, most say Swiss, some say Swiss/French decent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikemodeler Posted July 11, 2012 Share Posted July 11, 2012 Saw something on the news the other day related to this topic and haven't taken the time to verify it but it mentioned that something like only 30% of the GM vehicles are actually manufactured or assembled in the US- the rest are either North American (Canada or Mexico) or overseas. If I get the time tonight, I may do a little research as to what percentage of "foreign" vehicles are built in the US versus the "domestic". So, the question is this- Is a Chevrolet that is "assembled in Mexico" using Mexican labor more beneficial to the US economy because the "profits" are kept in the US over a Toyota that is assembled in Kentucky and presumably the profits go to Japan? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MachinistMark Posted July 11, 2012 Share Posted July 11, 2012 how about a canadian car... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dingo5162 Posted July 11, 2012 Share Posted July 11, 2012 (edited) Well I drive a car where the doors, front and rear fender where made in Japan, the hood roof and bootlid made in Australia, the motor and trans (5 speed) also in Australia, the rims again in Australia and the tyres well only God knows where they may have been made as there is no "Made In " label stamped on them at all. The car I'm talking about is our Mitsubishi Magna a car where the Mitsubishi name is Japanese and the Magna name is Australian so figure this one out oh yea I almost forgot it is built and assemble in Australia by a mixture of workers from around the world. Dingo Edited July 11, 2012 by Dingo5162 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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