Scratch Building Glue

[MikeyB08]

What kind of glue do you primarly use when scratch buiding?

Ill be building a roll cage soon and trying to get my ducks in a row. Do you use any other techniques to ensure a good strong structure?

[Blown03SVT]

Tenax and CA with accelerator for adhesives and pinning for major structural points

[MikeyB08]

How do you go about "pinning"? I have small guage wire and a pin vise. Right idea?

[Blown03SVT]

Along those lines. You could go use paper clips, brass or aluminum rod, etc. I use cut down sewing pins which I cut with diagonal pliers. The sewing pins are really cheap and really strong, almost as if they have a "temper" to them. The key is to what ever you use to have it fit snug in the drilled hole.

Edit: found a tutorial for you

http://www.modelcarsmag.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=61639&hl=pinning

Edited March 13, 2013 by Blown03SVT

[Mooneyzs]

I use Weld-On #3 which is like tenax and pro ambroid as well as CA with accelerator.

[Blown03SVT]

Thanks Roger. I didn't know it wasn't available anymore. I have had a bottle on my work bench for years which thankfully hasn't evaporated that much. I never seems to need a ton of it so a little has always gone a long way. Did the manufacture go out of buisness or was it because of VOC reasons?

[Jantrix]

  On 3/13/2013 at 3:18 PM, Blown03SVT said:

Tenax and CA with accelerator for adhesives and pinning for major structural points

yep

[Ace-Garageguy]

  On 3/13/2013 at 3:18 PM, Blown03SVT said:

Tenax and CA with accelerator for adhesives and pinning for major structural points

Yeah, one of the deep-penetrating liquid glues (Chris' Weld-On #3 is great, a lot more of the same stuff, more cost-effective overall than buying little bottles), pinning, fish-mouthing the styrene rod (as also suggested), and I personally prefer Loctite Gel CA for fillets and reinforcement at roll-cage joints.

The rest of this cage was scratch-built.

Edited March 13, 2013 by Ace-Garageguy

[Mooneyzs]

As Bill mentioned, it is much more cost effective buying in a bigger quantity. Years ago Weld-On #3 was able to be purcased in 4oz bottkes in hobbies stores....well thats where i first got mine. At some point in time you stopped seeing it in hobby stores. I really love this glue so I had to find other sources for it.

The last time I ordered ir I got it from a company out in Placerville Ca which is 45 miles from Sacramento. Here is the website if anyone is interested www.thefabricatorssource.com i just got on their website to check prices and a quart (32 oz) is $16.40 which equals .51 cents an ounce. A pint (16 oz) is $10.50 which equals .65 cents an ounce and they even have 4 oz bottles for $5.70 which equals $1.43 an ounce. I bought two quarts last time because of the min order and I jist transfer from the quart container to a smaller jar.

[MikeyB08]

Awesome!! Thanks a lot guys. Really a lot of useful information.

[Swamp Dog]

  On 3/13/2013 at 7:00 PM, Mooneyzs said:

As Bill mentioned, it is much more cost effective buying in a bigger quantity. Years ago Weld-On #3 was able to be purcased in 4oz bottkes in hobbies stores....well thats where i first got mine. At some point in time you stopped seeing it in hobby stores. I really love this glue so I had to find other sources for it.

The last time I ordered ir I got it from a company out in Placerville Ca which is 45 miles from Sacramento. Here is the website if anyone is interested www.thefabricatorssource.com i just got on their website to check prices and a quart (32 oz) is $16.40 which equals .51 cents an ounce. A pint (16 oz) is $10.50 which equals .65 cents an ounce and they even have 4 oz bottles for $5.70 which equals $1.43 an ounce. I bought two quarts last time because of the min order and I jist transfer from the quart container to a smaller jar.

  On 3/13/2013 at 3:53 PM, Mooneyzs said:

I use Weld-On #3 which is like tenax and pro ambroid as well as CA with accelerator.

i agree..thanks for the web site..that is a big save on cost..

[Mooneyzs]

  On 3/13/2013 at 8:34 PM, Swamp Dog said:

i agree..thanks for the web site..that is a big save on cost..

You are welcome. I had a plastics shop here in phoenix that I got a pint from years ago and they went out of business so i had to find somewhere else and found that company online and couldn't beat the price. Gkad I coukd pass on the info.

[Ace-Garageguy]

Do they stick you with a hazmat shipping fee? I can get it from a local plastics supplies company, but they add almost as much to ship a quart as it costs & I'm about out.

[MikeyB08]

They definitely have the best price. Any ideas about how long this Weld-On #3 last? I know it depends on how much you scratch build. Just general use.

[Ace-Garageguy]

  On 3/13/2013 at 11:38 PM, MikeyB08 said:

They definitely have the best price. Any ideas about how long this Weld-On #3 last? I know it depends on how much you scratch build. Just general use.

Kinda depends on how much you build. I've gone thru a 1 oz bottle of Tenax in a week...even keeping it capped most of the time.

[Mooneyzs]

Bill... No they didn't hit me with a hazmat shipping fee. I found my invoice when I last bought from them and it was back on 8/3/2011. They have a $25.00 min order. And back then the quarts were $13.20 ea, so I ordered 2 to make the min order price. So total was $26.50 and shipping and handling was $13.83 for a total of $40.30.

James....as I mentioned the last time I order was on 8/3/2011 and I opened one of the quarts on 8/23/2011 and I have about 1/2 a quart left from that can now plus my 2nd can I haven't even opened yet. So a year and half on basically a pint that has been used. And as you said depends on how much you use. I use this to glue all of my bare plastic....scratch building or parts from a kit. I always pour into a smaller bottle which I will have open when using. Sometimes I use a brush and sometimes I use a flexifile touch n flow applicator.

Edited March 14, 2013 by Mooneyzs

[MikeyB08]

Okay Awesome. Regardless, seems like a wise investment. Thanks again for all the responses.