walterbog Posted November 6, 2013 Share Posted November 6, 2013 bill, the t-bolts originally came with 9.50x15 firestone drag slicks but most teams switched to m&h slicks because the firestone rubber compound was too hard to get good traction.early on the t-bolts ran a/fx till the nhra required number were built.the problem with the revell kit slicks is the wheel size is too large.finding correct width s/s 7" pie crust(recap style) slicks without going the aftermarket route is possible.another thing to remember is all nhra legal super stocks had to have a exhaust system with muffler. even the nhra legal a/fx cars had to have this type exhaust system although it was removed for match racing and most meets.the muffler used was a aftermarket Monroe goldtone muffler. all the 7" and 10" slicks were the pie crust style, usually m&h.even if you find the correct width cheater slicks they wont have the grooves cut in the slicks that you can find in the aftermarket. it depends how accurate you want to be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gtx6970 Posted November 6, 2013 Author Share Posted November 6, 2013 So these are my best option for the S/S cars ? I want them to look accurate,, at least to a point. But not enough I want to have a big money tied up in aftermkt stuff either. http://speedcityresin.com/7InchCheaterRubberSlicks.jpg I'll have to look thru my stash and see what I have in the parts box without robbing from unbuilt Johan kits . Then decide how to procede.. Something I just thought of,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, is if I change the rear tires , it'll require a wheel change as well, which will require a Ft tire / wheel change as well to look right,,,,,,,, decisions decisions decisions Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walterbog Posted November 6, 2013 Share Posted November 6, 2013 bill, let us know what cars you are doing in super stock and then I can check my photos to see what wheels they ran. nhra would not allow a lighter wheel than the ones that were offered with the car.t-bolts came with steel wheels and rader wheel were an option. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gtx6970 Posted November 6, 2013 Author Share Posted November 6, 2013 bill, let us know what cars you are doing in super stock and then I can check my photos to see what wheels they ran. nhra would not allow a lighter wheel than the ones that were offered with the car.t-bolts came with steel wheels and rader wheel were an option. Thanks . When I get to the point I am ready to start these I post with questions ( probably a winter project ) If the weather holds out I may try to get bodies painted in the next few weeks . I have the decals to do all the cars I have listed in addition to the 2 I already have finished Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maltsr Posted November 7, 2013 Share Posted November 7, 2013 Thanks . When I get to the point I am ready to start these I post with questions ( probably a winter project ) If the weather holds out I may try to get bodies painted in the next few weeks . I have the decals to do all the cars I have listed in addition to the 2 I already have finished When painting/decaling the bodies, watch out for the colour insert in the side-trim, could be black, white or body colour. And don't foil the driprails, these were painted on the full size cars. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Kucaba Posted November 7, 2013 Share Posted November 7, 2013 Stevens International used to have the formerly Johann style of slicks in a four pack. Maybe someone still has them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gtx6970 Posted November 7, 2013 Author Share Posted November 7, 2013 When painting/decaling the bodies, watch out for the colour insert in the side-trim, could be black, white or body colour. And don't foil the driprails, these were painted on the full size cars. All the T bolts shared the same color and trim of interior correct? only differences were auto or 4 spd Were some column auto - versus floor shift ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gtx6970 Posted November 7, 2013 Author Share Posted November 7, 2013 different car - same interior trim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walterbog Posted November 7, 2013 Share Posted November 7, 2013 bill, all interiors were the same.column 3spd automatic shifter.floor mounted 4spd shifter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gtx6970 Posted November 7, 2013 Author Share Posted November 7, 2013 (edited) I wonder whos car this was then ? No idea when or where I snagged the pic off the net . Something else I've noticed none havea roll bar, and almost every T-Bolt interior pic I've found they all have the back seat in them. So I assume that was required by the NHRA at the time ? Edited November 7, 2013 by gtx6970 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
250 Testa Rossa Posted November 7, 2013 Share Posted November 7, 2013 Info on MT's ("hemi") Thunderbolt: http://www.woodyg.com/fairlane/mt64tbolt/ Yes, this is the car Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burnout Posted November 7, 2013 Share Posted November 7, 2013 At some point roll bars became mandatory (obviously) but in the early to mid-sixties, for S/S cars, roll bars were not required but the back seat had to remain in the car. Then, there was a period where, the back seat could be removed but only if it was replaced with a roll bar. Good luck with your project. I'll be following along as I've got the 'bolt on my short list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gtx6970 Posted November 8, 2013 Author Share Posted November 8, 2013 At some point roll bars became mandatory (obviously) but in the early to mid-sixties, for S/S cars, roll bars were not required but the back seat had to remain in the car. Then, there was a period where, the back seat could be removed but only if it was replaced with a roll bar. Thanks, thats what I figured. I usually build to replicate the time frames when the cars were new . But at the most nothing newer than about 1974 time frame on just about everything. Once I get rolling I'll post a few pics along the way . I restore 1/1 cars for a living and at the moment I am quite busy . So model bench time is not easy to come by right now , so these will be winter projects Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToyLvr Posted November 9, 2013 Share Posted November 9, 2013 Bill: The Testors "Wimbledon White" was available at Villa Hobby when I was in there recently.... Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
250 Testa Rossa Posted November 12, 2013 Share Posted November 12, 2013 Is the Street Machine release different than the other releases of the Revell Thunderbolt? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gtx6970 Posted November 12, 2013 Author Share Posted November 12, 2013 Is the Street Machine release different than the other releases of the Revell Thunderbolt? Outside of it being molded in white, I don't know if there are any differences ( besides decals ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carbman Posted November 12, 2013 Share Posted November 12, 2013 nice builds on the ford thunderbolts! cool pics! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-Bolt427 Posted November 15, 2013 Share Posted November 15, 2013 The street machine series is the same. The last issue was a 2 in 1 series, which had all of the original pieces, plus a flat hood, inserts and lens to make the inner head lights "functional" and dog dish wheel covers. To reiterate, the Butch Leal car was always "Vintage Burgundy" and never "black". Also the "Bob Ford" T-Bolt was repainted "gold" with a "black" roof after it was raced by Kenny Vogt in it's "yellow" color. The information on the "Fred Cady" decal sheets stating that the "Leal" car was black and the "Bob Ford" car was "silver and black" was incorrect. In Fred's defense, the photographs he had available at the time were black and white. I have seen some models built with the black and silver colors though, and they look awesome that way too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-Bolt427 Posted November 15, 2013 Share Posted November 15, 2013 By the way, anybody building the "Hubert Platt" version, be aware that the decal placement for the driver's side on the instruction sheet are incorrect. They are backwards. The placement should be left to right like on the passenger side. (The cartoon figure of "Frank Vego" should be on the front fender and the rest of them should mimic the passenger side, so that everything flows the same way). I made this mistake, as did some others that I've seen built. And if anyone is interested, the correct color for this T-Bolt (as most all of Platts cars were) is "Guardsman Blue." It's not available in model car paint. You can get it for an air brush from "Scale Finishes." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afxmustang Posted November 16, 2013 Share Posted November 16, 2013 T Bolt you have your Bob Ford colors backwards. Gold and black was first in '64. It was yellow when driven by Kenny Vogt in '65. In '66 it was metallic blue and orange and raced by Expressway Gulf. As delivered the Bob Ford car was burgundy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-Bolt427 Posted November 16, 2013 Share Posted November 16, 2013 You are correct! I got to thinking about that later. I had corresponded with the current owner of the car a few years ago, to get the paint code for the gold. He told me exactly what you said. Also said he had a rough time deciding which way to restore it (yellow or gold). He eventually decided on the gold and black. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gtx6970 Posted November 16, 2013 Author Share Posted November 16, 2013 Whats the best rattle can to do the Gold on the Bob Ford car ? It almost looks like the same or very similar color to the interior of the car ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveM Posted November 17, 2013 Share Posted November 17, 2013 Scale Finishes has both Vintage Burgundy and Wimbledon White in their catalog. They also have the Poppy Red for the Russ Davis Ford car , the Gold for the Bob Ford car, and the Platt Guardsman Blue. I have not tried their paints, but I intend to soon. They are pricy, but where else can I get some of the Hudson colors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afxmustang Posted November 17, 2013 Share Posted November 17, 2013 Correct color for the Bob Ford T Bolt would be Champaign Gold which I think is available from Model Master. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gtx6970 Posted November 17, 2013 Author Share Posted November 17, 2013 (edited) Correct color for the Bob Ford T Bolt would be Champaign Gold which I think is available from Model Master. something like this ? This is a Tamaya champagne gold Edited November 17, 2013 by gtx6970 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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