Rudy2013 Posted February 15, 2014 Posted February 15, 2014 thought id give Alclad 2 a try the chrome paint for starters Im usuing an iwata neo air brush bottom feed and badger compressor no regulater so I think its pumpin out 30 psi sprayed my gloss black base coat first and had good luck with it goin on smooth so Ill wait a day for it to dry before i spray the chrome. My question is should I get a regulater to drop the air pressure to the 12 to 15 psi pressure they recomend ? and I asked my local hobby shop if I could use lacquer thinners they sell in the hardware stores for like 6 bucks for a huge bottle to clean the air brush and they say no it may wreck the air brush but of course they wanta sell you a a bottle of the alclad cleaner for 10 bucks plus its a pain to clean the paint bottle out afterwards so using the alclad cleaner would become very expensive so what do you guys think any help would be welcomed.
LoneWolf15 Posted February 15, 2014 Posted February 15, 2014 I clean the airbrush out with hardware variety laquer thinner after using Alclad and have never had a problem ....... I think you caught them at their game ! Lol ! As for the regulator ? Yes !
my80malibu Posted February 15, 2014 Posted February 15, 2014 I clean the airbrush out with hardware variety laquer thinner after using Alclad and have never had a problem ....... I think you caught them at their game ! Lol ! As for the regulator ? Yes ! I would Agree with this Alclad works well at the lower PSI
Force Posted February 15, 2014 Posted February 15, 2014 (edited) I don't know of any airbrush that don't take regular lacquer or cellulose thinners for cleaning, maybe the Aztec doesn't wich is made from plastic. I have three airbrushes, one Thayer & Chandler Vega 2000 bottom feed, one Iwata Hi-Line HP-CH gravity feed and one cheap gravity feed airbrush bought at a hardware store, and I have never had any problems using lacquer or cellulose thinners in any of them...it's a tool used for painting and should take whatever thinners you would like to use in them without being destroyed. And for the Alclad...and other paints as well, allways use a regulator as lower pressures saves paint, and the Alclad doesn't need much pressure...but a bottom feed airbrush may need a bit more pressure to work right as the airflow draws the paint from the cup, a gravity feed needs less as the paint goes into the airbrush by itself. Lay the Alclad on thin, just as much to get coverage...too thick coats and you'll get "regular silver" and loose the chrome effect. Edited February 15, 2014 by Force
GeeBee Posted February 15, 2014 Posted February 15, 2014 Yes I would get yourself a regulator, Alclad needs to be sprayed around 12-15 psi, and regular lacquer thinners will work fine, I use it to clean my airbrushes no mater what I've put through it ...
Chillyb1 Posted February 15, 2014 Posted February 15, 2014 Alclad doesn't need much pressure...but a bottom feed airbrush may need a bit more pressure to work right as the airflow draws the paint from the cup, a gravity feed needs less as the paint goes into the airbrush by itself. Okay, all of your questions have been answered and I agree with what the others have said. I'd like to add to what Force mentions about the gravity feed versus suction feed: If you don't have a color cup that you can use with your airbrush, then you should get one. I've found that Alclad chrome and polished aluminum work better when drawing from a cup than from a bottle in my Paasche VL.
Rudy2013 Posted February 15, 2014 Author Posted February 15, 2014 Thanks for the info I went out and got a regulator this morning so Ill give it a go later on and see what happens Ive also been thinking of the badger 105 for some time now this is the first lacquer Ive ever used and the clean up on the bottle is a pain lol maybe its time i switched ?
jsc Posted February 16, 2014 Posted February 16, 2014 Can someone share some details about using alClad? It really looks like chrome, but can it only be used through an airbrush? Can it be brushed? Is it available in a rattle can? Thanks John
mnwildpunk Posted February 16, 2014 Posted February 16, 2014 (edited) Oh shoot where was it I think hub hobby I got a box of plastic jars 40 for a Lil over $14 cause of tax so about. 35ยข a jar. That way you don't have to clean a jar just throw the lid on tight. Just clean the A.B. before switching. When spraying you alclad make sure to do it at a steep angle so it won't hit and bounce causing a duller finish I learned this from another Modeler on here Edited February 16, 2014 by mnwildpunk
DrewCfromSC Posted February 16, 2014 Posted February 16, 2014 I have some spazstix in rattle can but not sure about alclad?
ApexSpeed Posted February 16, 2014 Posted February 16, 2014 Airbrush only, from what I have seen and used. Rattle cans can't atomize paint that thin into tiny enough particles for it to work properly. I wouldn't brush it on, either. It looks like dark water with a film on it when you see it in a container and gets sprayed very lightly at an angle over a base color like gloss black (recommended). I strip kit chrome and rechrome the pieces I need to have chromed and they always look much more realistic than the plastic tree chrome out of the box.
horsepower Posted February 16, 2014 Posted February 16, 2014 (edited) If you have a local hobby shop that handles paints for R/C cars, you can get Alclad in spray cans for polycarbonate (lexan) it is lacquer based so make sure you let your black base dry well. I haven't used it,,,, yet but like Spaz-stix it says you can seal it with a water based clear acrylic. Edited February 16, 2014 by horsepower
Steven Zimmerman Posted February 16, 2014 Posted February 16, 2014 I clean my airbrush with spray carb cleaner. Never had a problem yet..........'Z'
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