angelo7 Posted August 3, 2014 Share Posted August 3, 2014 I just bought a spray can of Model Master Metalizer No Buff Sealer (Testors 1459). Is there a special step or trick for this? Or can I just spray it on and that's it? And what they mean by "No Buff"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scalenut Posted August 3, 2014 Share Posted August 3, 2014 its a protective clear coat meant to go over the non buffing metalizers.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelo7 Posted August 3, 2014 Author Share Posted August 3, 2014 (edited) so this is a clear coat? no hint of gray color? Edited August 3, 2014 by angelo7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirt Demon Posted August 3, 2014 Share Posted August 3, 2014 It's clear.... Just spray your parts and it's done.... It's just a clear Barrier coat so the paint won't rub off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Art Anderson Posted August 3, 2014 Share Posted August 3, 2014 Modelmaster Metalizers come in two types, "Buffing" and "Non-buffing". IIRC, the concept of "Metalizing" paints began with the English hobby paint mfr Humbrol, in the mid-1970's. Monogram Models offered, for several years in the late 70's/early 80's Humbrol Metalizers in the same little tinlets, but with Monogram-Humbrol labeling. Somewhere along the way, I think Testors managed to either buy the formula from Humbrol, or perhaps they either cloned it, or came up with their own. But I digress: It appears to me that Modelmaster (and indeed Humbrol) buffing metalizers behave, once dry, very much like the so-called "Metallic Wax" finishes which came on the craft market about 1968 or so. You could wipe that stuff on a plastic model, just as you would ordinary paste wax, except that this stuff had very finely ground metal powder in it, which you could buff out to an almost mirror finish. It seems to me that this is what the Metalizer buffing paints may well be, as you can polish those gently and they will come up with a rather bright sheen, close to that of polished metal. The non-buffing metalizers do not have that "polishability" however, but rather they give a grainy metallic surface that lacks any sort of glossy carrier as one might expect in say, a metallic automotive lacquer or enamel. That gives a raw, unfinished, unpolished finish that gives a hint of say, raw cast metal. Art Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace-Garageguy Posted August 3, 2014 Share Posted August 3, 2014 Spraying the "sealer" over BUFFED metalizer will destroy the polished-metal appearance, and return the look to muddy silver paint (at least it has whenever I've used it). I've been getting around to trying a water-based clear that shouldn't have any effect on the appearance, but so far have not done the testing. The "sealer" is entirely unnecessary, as the buffed polished-metal appearance lasts well if not handled (assuming it's done correctly). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelo7 Posted August 3, 2014 Author Share Posted August 3, 2014 Thank you guys! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quick GMC Posted August 3, 2014 Share Posted August 3, 2014 Like Bill said, do not use the sealer over the buffed metallizer, it will kill the effect. It is good to use over parts that have a metallic finish that are not buffed, or have a reflection. I buff out the metallizers with kleenex. On another forum, a large scale forum, a guy did a tutorial with micromesh and sanding and polishing the metallizers. It was amazing, but I haven't been able to get it to work without rubbing through. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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