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#81 Webb

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Posted 22 February 2013 - 03:07 AM

Now THIS is the definition of scratch building! Incredible work Kenn. Can't wait to see the finished product.
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Posted 22 February 2013 - 05:12 AM

That's fabulous! I hope I can acquire a little of your skill by following this thread but don't hold your breath, anybody! :lol:



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Posted 22 February 2013 - 07:08 AM

I have not been happy with how the front fenders fit and how I had them mounted so to tore it apart and rethought the mounting so they would fit precisely the same way each time.

so I started with the base pinned to the frame.

 

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The base was then trimed to fit the hood and frame where I needed the fender inner panel to fit. Note that it also pinned the running board part to the body so that dimension remaines the same all the time.

 

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Now I can set the fender to get a basic idea of the space i needed for the inner panel.

 

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The inner panel is formed with the heating and molding and now it is roughed out, I will be sanding and filling to smooth it out. Now it fits properly and mount securly to the frame like it should.

 

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It now fits the right way and with the front tires in place is very solid and repeatable for the next car.

 

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Thank you for the comments and looking. I hope that some of the things I am doing help out in some way to help you in your model building. I do everything with simple tools and have no machine shop to make perfect parts. I am shooting mostly for the flavor of the car and the little details I make up provide to make it appear as massive as this car is.

 

I was watching a show on Margret Thatcher the other night and they had one of these cars in a few scenes.

 

Kenn


Edited by kennb, 22 February 2013 - 07:09 AM.


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Posted 22 February 2013 - 08:45 AM

THIS IS AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!!!



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Posted 22 February 2013 - 11:15 AM

now the front fits together the way is should. the fenders are solid with the body and goes together the same each time so fitting everything works out nicely. I am very pleased that I tore it apart and rebuilt the ineer fenders and pinned it together. I will be using more pins as i put things together before painting. they are the way to go. The second side went to gether a lot nicer than the first. I may take the mudded side out and redo it. I will see how it works out. I so dont like using fillers on the bodies.

 

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This shows the battery that I made in the battery box on the cowel, very crude but does the job. After paint and wiring it will show very nicely.

 

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Posted 22 February 2013 - 01:42 PM

Finally got back to the interior. The seats are done now. I used .20 square plastic for the beading and rounded it off after it was in place. The tufting was done with ,20 applied and sanded to shape.

 

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Additional pictures of these are on photobucket. linked earlier in the thread.

 

Thank you all for looking and commenting. The comments help in creating a better model and thread.

 

Kenn :rolleyes:


Edited by kennb, 22 February 2013 - 01:43 PM.


#87 Del Austin

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Posted 22 February 2013 - 04:08 PM

Wow



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Posted 22 February 2013 - 11:06 PM

insanely cool !!!!!!!!!!!!



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Posted 23 February 2013 - 06:41 AM

The interior door panels have been a problem since there are very very photos of an origional. I did fond some but they dont seem to be the same so I picked one that appealed to me.

 

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There is a lot of wood inide so I have to make that seperate.

To get two pieces that are the same I tack glueed the finished piece to flat stock and used it as a pattern to make a reverse piece for the other side.

 

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The finished side panel and window surrounds

 

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thanks you for all the encouragement and those that look on. I hope that you find some little thing you can use.

 

At this point I am about half done before I can really start to get any paint on it. Be patient, we will get there.. :rolleyes:

 

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Posted 23 February 2013 - 10:38 AM

I went through and pinned the fenders in the front and back. Now they stay in place they way they need to for assembly.

I also have a update photo on all the parts made so far.

 

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the assembly is now solid and stays together with out and glue or tape. Progess :rolleyes:

 

I skip around alot as I think of things that should be done. I end up with going back and fine tuning parts or adding a little detail here or there.

The rear fender welting is one example. I thought this would add to the overall appearence and decided a little .20 strip along the inside edge would add to the final look.

thank you again for all those that are following me with this project. ;)

 

I still have to finish then interior and some exterior details.Will have part 4 of the history in one of the next posts.

 

Kenn :)



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Posted 23 February 2013 - 10:44 AM

B)



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Posted 23 February 2013 - 11:00 AM

This is an amazing piece of work. I think a little more aggressive sanding would make some of the body curves and window openings smoother.


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#93 kennb

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Posted 23 February 2013 - 11:03 AM

You are totally correct about the sanding. There is a lot of that to do yet. They key to a good finish is sanding,,,,sanding,,,,,,sanding,,,,,and when you think you are done sand more.. :P



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Posted 24 February 2013 - 06:26 AM

I have the interior side panels completed so now to some of the details on the body. I made up a mounting bracket for the bumper and driving lights.

 

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I added some of the details on the fenders and running boards along with the driving light cans and bumper....Things are coming along..

 

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Thank you for looking and all the comments.. :rolleyes:

 

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Posted 24 February 2013 - 10:59 AM

Part 4 of the history of this car:

 

The SA had its biggest setback just ten days before the launch of the model was due, when a new sporting saloon was
 announced by SS Cars of Coventry. MG had never considered this company to be any threat to them in the past, as they
were not producing cars to compete in the same market sector. SS also did not have any competition successes worthy of
 note, however, this new car, the first to bear the Jaguar name, was a far more serious rival. William Lyons, the owner
 of SS cars was a brilliant designer from the same mould as Kimber, he also made all the major decisions, which meant
that the Jaguar SS went straight into production, unlike the floundering Nuffield group which took until early 1936
to decide on the specification and supply the parts for the SA. With the initial publicity long since forgotten,
it was over 6 months since the introduction of the model before the MG Two Litre went into full production.
This delay was due also to Abingdon trying to uprate the specification to improve its standing against the Jaguar.
The car initially had a 2062 cc engine and this was increased to 2288 cc's to match the Jaguars 2663 cc unit.
Normally this sort of alteration to the specification would have taken a matter of days when Abingdon were dealing
direct with suppliers and were doing their own design work. It took months for the Morris engines division to change
the specification as they saw it as a relatively unimportant job. As a direct result many disillusioned customers,
over 500 in all, who had been waiting for their cars, changed their orders to the Jaguar s'S which was ready for
immediate delivery.

 

I have gotten a lot of the exterior details worked on now. Some updated photos as it sits now. I have the radiator and grill shell mounted now. Things are starting to come together nicely.

 

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The fender ribs are a little heavy and will bo worked down a little. They are an important part of the overall design.

 

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I have almost 250 photos in photobucket. The link is above.

Kenn



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Posted 25 February 2013 - 08:38 AM

Very cool Kenn  Keep up the hard work  its paying off.



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Posted 25 February 2013 - 08:46 AM

Thank you...thae hardest part is now happening,,,the fine tuning and final details. I am redoing the wheels since i did not like them and they were too small for this beast,, :rolleyes:



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Posted 25 February 2013 - 09:15 AM

I just went thru the entire build thread, and all I can say is,,,,,,, OH    MY    GOD

 

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Posted 25 February 2013 - 09:20 AM

thank you....I have been having a lot of fun doing this build. :D



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Posted 25 February 2013 - 04:47 PM

Today I redid all the wheels and hubs, The initial set where not very good and too small so I started over. Dont ever be afraid to tear something apart to redo it if you are not happy. If you dont like how it is now there is no amount of paint that will fix it. :wacko:

 

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I also was not liking how the back was and it was not right to start with. Nothing was fitting the way it was supose to either so I tore that aprat and redid the rear fenders.

 

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The fender lines are wrong and I just hashed things together (mistake) and it was totally wroorng and did not even look like it was supose to. Now it is closer and roughed out. Just a little more finishing.

 

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Comparing the 2 pictures you can see right away what I mean.

 

Note also the pencil lines at the rear windows. They are about where the windows should be and will be corrected. I just have some final work there and that part is corrected.

Fixing things like that is part of the game. If I was paying better attention to start with and consulting the drawings better I would not have had to go back and do the fenders over. B)

I will be going over the pictures more and comparing to the car and making more adjustments this week and getting it ready for primer.

 

Final colors will be British Racing Green and a lighter green for the body sides. The motor will be the British Green and engine compartment will be black along with the frame.

The wheels are still temporary hubs since I am going to try my hand at real wire wheels which is what they should be. For the time being I will just have hub caps. :P

 

Thanks for watching the build and the comments. They really are appreciated even if you see something you feel needs to be correctd.

 

Kenn :rolleyes: