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Nothing wrong with that build...nice.
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12 hours ago, cifenet said:
This is another challenge with an exhaust mounting assembly. This is another blind assembly where the previously mounted location matters. AMT does this throughout their builds too.
Just an observation.
This is not exhaust, it's the fresh air intake ducting to the turbo.
The exhaust goes from the opposit side of the turbo down to a large square muffler on the side of the frame behind the front wheel/fender.
And yes, the AMT kit instructions are often vague on correct placements too...very vague. 😁-
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Yes as far as I know.
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Several racers used Pirelli front tires back in the day but there were lots of options with similar sizes.
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Coming along nice Steve.
I wouldn't mind multipiece cabs either if you can build the cab separate and install the interior afterwards, that would work just fine for me.
But all the inaccuracies I find hard to deal with as I want to build accurate models if I can, and no engine at all is not for me as I find the mechanical bits interesting and you learn a lot from them, so if there is no engine I don't buy if I can't get something to put in there...the Italeri and Revell Volvo VN kits are one of the kits without engine.
I'm most familiar with Volvo and Scania as I'm Swede, and the first kits of them Italeri did, the Volvo F12 and Scania T142H and R142H, was near to accurate, but the later versions of Volvo's and Scanias was not.
The later Volvo F16 kit still had the TD120 engine and the complete chassis the F12 had but should have had a TD162 engine wich is a totally different beast, the cab was correct but the rest wasn't, the only thing the TD120 and TD162 have in common is they are inline 6 engines, Volvo also updated the drive hubs and other things.
The Scania 3 series 143 and 4 series 144 still had the old DS14 from the 142 kits but should have had a DSC14 with intercooler up to the later R series kits but didn't.
Later in the 2000's both Volvo and Scania did totally new engines but Italeri still used the old outdated engines for a long time in newer kits wich should have had the new D12, D13, D16 engines for Volvo and DC 13 and DC16 for Scania, all wich looks totally different from the erlier engines, sometimes they did small updates that was never enough...the recent Volvo FH4 kit does look reasonably correct tho'.
A couple of Italeri kits that's intriguing is the "Club Of Four" cab kits where I don't know what they were thinking about, this was a cab made in Volvo's factory in Gent Belgium and this cab was shared with 4 different manufacturers wich were Volvo, DAF, Magirus- Deutz (Iveco) and Saviem (Renault), thus the "Club Of Four" name, the cab was also used by Mack then owned by Renault, these were distribution or lighter duty trucks.
Italeri did the DAF F1300, the Volvo F6, the Iveco MK and the Renault J-G-series as fire ladder trucks, all with the same kit number 784, all had the same Magirus-Deutz (Iveco) air cooled engine chassis and driveline wich they certainly did not in real life as it was only the basic cab that was the same and the chassis and driveline was different between the 4 makes, the only difference between the different model kits was the grille, the front bumper and decals...that's the pinnacle of inaccuracy if you ask me.
Well lets leave it with that and go back to your build.-
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Yes indeed, I have built a few Italeri kits over the years and the mulit piece cabs are not an easy task to paint.
Personally I don't like Italeri's way of doing their kits, it's not just the cabs but all the short takes they take wich doesn't make many of their kits accurate.
For instance they often use outdated engines and drive trains, some with a few updates wich isn't enough, I also don't like their wheels and how you attach them.
They also only have two different chassis and drive trains for all of their US truck kits, one for the Peterbilt kits with a Detroit Series 60 and Peterbilt Airl Leaf suspension, and one for the rest of them wich in fact is a Freightliner chassis with a Cummins NTC inline 6 and a FAS Airliner earlier used by Peterbilt then called Stabilaire, one exception...the Italeri Freightliner FLD has a FAS II Airliner suspension wich came after 1990.
It was a long time since I bought a Italeri kit just for that.-
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Looks mean.
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The flathead 4 was either black or dark green depending on year.
Here is a list of paint colors of Flathead Engines 1932 to 1953:
Year Ford Mercury Truck Commercial
1932 Dark Green N/A Dark Green Dark Green
1933 Dark Green N/A Dark Green Dark Green
1934 Dark Green N/A Dark Green Dark Green
1935 Dark Green N/A Dark Green Dark Green
1936 Dark Green N/A Dark Green Dark Green
1937 Dark Green N/A Dark Green Dark Green
1938 Dark Green N/A Dark Green Dark Green
1939 Dark Green Dark Green Dark Green Dark Green
1940 Dark Green Dark Green Dark Green Dark Green
1941 Dark Green or Dark Blue Dark Blue Dark Green Dark Blue
1942 Dark Green Dark Blue Dark Green or Dark Blue Dark Blue
1943 Unknown Unknown Unknown Unknown
1944 Unknown Unknown Unknown Unknown
1945 Unknown Unknown Unknown Unknown
1946 Dark Blue Dark Blue Dark Blue Dark Blue
1947 Dark Blue Dark Blue Dark Blue Dark Blue
1948 Dark Blue Dark Blue Dark Blue Deep Red
1949 Dark Blue Green Dark Blue or Green Deep Red
1949½ Bronze Green Bronze or Green Deep Red
1950 Bronze Green Bronze or Green Deep Red
1951 Bronze Green Bronze or Green Deep Red
1952 Tangerine or Green Tangerine or Green Green Green
1953 Tangerine or Green Tangerine or Green Green Green-
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4 hours ago, Jim B said:
Not that it will happen, but I'd like to see some of the newer Freightliners like the Columbia or Cascadia. They seem to be everywhere in US highways.
I was on vacation on the west coast in the US two months ago on Tuesday and I saw Cascadias everywhere on the highways...so I would like to see one of them as a model kit.
They are also popular with different racing teams....so a Freightliner Cascadia and a Featherlite style race transport trailer for me please.-
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On 12/28/2023 at 11:13 PM, Biggu said:
Would any of these be a starting point? Not sure how accurate they are or aren't , but may be worth a look?
If you do decide to order from Paul, he is a top drawer guy, I have placed a number of orders from him and he has never failed to have stellar service....
Cheers
Jeff
The Revell Germany Peterbilt 353 is not accurate at all, they are way off as it's a regular 359 with different fenders...much like the bad Marmon they did wich was a Peterbilt 359 with a different grille.
So they are not worth it if you want to do a correct 353.
But I agree with you, Paul is a great guy to shop from.-
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Cragar did a similar wheel named Superlite II
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Looks like a AMT 1963 Galaxie with custom parts.
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22 hours ago, martinfan5 said:
Revell did it too, they only tooled up one engine block/intake/pulleys/oil pan for both Chevy and Ford, what they did do is make manufacture specific heads and valve covers.
Well that's at least better than Salvinos JR who use the complete Chevrolet R07 engine for all three makes.
The heads and valve covers are the things that are most different in outside appearence between the three engines if you look at the Rousch-Yates built Ford FR-9, the Hendricks and Childress built Chevrolet R07 and the Toyota TRD. -
I also saw that the other day.
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4 hours ago, ABC Auto Industry said:
1. On second thought, I also found a 3D model that somebody did of a 353 that can be bought as a print-ready model. Problem is, such a model costs like $900, and I don't want to pay that much just to get fenders and a hood.
2. OK, looks like I'll have to mod the hood, then. Based on what you said, it doesn't seem like a gargantuan task, although I'll be honest, I've never attempted this before.
On a side note, there's a construction company in my town that still has a black 353 dump truck in its fleet. I don't know what engine it's packing, but I know it has quad round headlights and six-spoke steel wheels.
Yeah the price can be the problem with 3D prints.
As for the hood, I don't think it will be a big problem, if you don't want it to be functional you can do it as a lift off.
Here is a link to the hood modification Tim did.
https://public.fotki.com/mackinac359/peterbilt-model-gal-3/tandem-steer-353-ca/353-tandem-steer.html -
I don't know if I like Salvinos JR's approach to these new Next Gen NASCAR Gereration 7 kits.
Yes the 3 different makes share a lot of components chassis wise but some are brand related and that's no problem as Salvinos JR have addressed that, likewise with the bodies.
But the engines are different and that doesn't Salvinos JR care about because there are Chevrolet R07 engines in all of the kits regardless of make, even Revell didn't do that on their last Ford and Chevrolet NASCAR Generation 6 kits, the Ford FR-9, the Chevrolet R07 and the Toyota TRD NASCAR engines doesn't look the same at all and Salvinos JR could at least have made new top ends with heads and valve covers that look tight for the Toyota's and Ford's.
I know it doesn't show much but I like to be able to build correct models.-
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6 hours ago, ABC Auto Industry said:
Which makes me wonder a couple of things:
1. Is the fender angle on the 353 the same or different from the fenders on the Kenworth Alaskan Hauler kit?
2. Could I use the butterfly hood from the Kenworth Alaskan Hauler kit and slap Pete ovals on that? I know Tim Ahlborn once reworked a Pete hood with a Kenworth cab in his youth in an attempt to build a 359 with an 1100 Series cab before AMT actually updated their 359 kit.
And yes, I love looking at Tim's Fotki page. I'm especially fond of looking at the old 387s (not to be confused with the new aero 387), and the big bad 397s.
1. If you look at the pictures on Tim's page for the 353 you will see that the 353 front fenders aren't the same shape as the Kenworth fenders, the Alaskan Hauler fenders are also diamond plate wich the 353 fenders aren't, maybe the Kenworth fenders can be modified but It's most likely easier to make them from scratch.
2. The butterfly hood on the Kenworth Alaskan Hauler is not right for a Peterbilt 353, it's a different shape as the Kenworth hood is more pointed at the top and the Peterbilt hood top is flatter, the layout is not the same, the 353 butterfly hood looks the same as the 351 hood but it's wider at the front, study the pictures and compare and you will see what I mean.
I know Tim himself had modified a 359 tilt hood to look like a 353 butterfly hood on one of his builds, it's in his Fotki albums of Peterbilt builds if you look around.
If you don't care about functionality it's a quite easy job with some sanding, filling in the cutout for the air cleaner and scribing in some new panel lines. -
I don't think the flat angeled fenders of the 353 would be a problem to scratch build from sheet stock, but the 353 also has a butterfly hood like the 351 has but with a wider radiator and grille.
The Revell Germany 353 is not right as the fenders are attached to the flip hood, the fenders on a real 353 are not as they are separate and attached to the chassis, the fenders in the Revell Germany 353 kit also is wrong shape and in diamond plate, but after what I can see the fenders should be smooth on the surface.
Here is a link to our friend and Peterbilt guru Tim Ahlborn's Fotki site with lots of pictures of 353's.
https://public.fotki.com/mackinac359/peterbilt-motors-cl/peterbilt-353/ -
2 hours ago, cifenet said:
Hi Håkan!
Thanks for joining my post! I have been expecting your participation.
Your procedure of minimizing/eliminating joint gap is a good one, and I think will have to try using liquid brush afterwards to further process. I actually use similar method, and I think the key is to allow glue to fill the seam.
On certain occasion, I can get also away with sanding only.
I start with 600#/800#/1000# grit sand paper to even out the surface and then polish out with 2000#.
The result is quite satisfying as shown below. Unfortunately, if you are dealing with injection pin marks such as below differential, then you get no choice but to putty.
You are right there.
Sometimes it's unavoidable.-
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Very nice.
But Miller Lite...naah it's Miller High Life wich is stronger. 😎
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Nice start.
I have a tip for you.
When I put together parts like engine, trans, axles, tanks and other stuff with the conecting seam in the middle I use regular styrene glue like Revell Contacta Professional or similar cement style glue wich solves the plastic, first I cut off locating pins and sand the parts so they are completely flat where they join, then I put the glue on and let it do it's work for a little while so the plastic softens up slightly at the seam, I put the parts together and adjust the seam so it looks good, and I press slightly so some of the plastic and glue ooze out of the seam and let it dry.
Afterwards when it's dry I take a thin liquid brush glue that also solves plastic and brush it over the seam and on the surface of the part, this solves the joint some and blend it in and I let that dry, when dry I sand down the seam and it gets invisible...I seldom need any putty for this kind of joints.-
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16 hours ago, Rockford said:
Well Håkan I took the leap. I had a "spare" set of drives on a built truck I only paid a few quid for so I used them. I did the same as the trailer wheels but used two strips of 0.5mm plastic card, one inside the other, to create the lip on the edge of the rim.
Used BMF on them and they marry up to the kit wheels very well. Added drive hubs too. At last, a 1/32 with wheels that look right (almost). I suppose Sundance deserves the best.
In the last picture you can also see the adjustments I had to make to the lower rail on the front bulkhead of the trailer. The is proud at one side and too short on the other so I added a strip of plastic across the front and then sanded it back.
See, it wasn't that hard was it, I had faith in you and thought you could pull it off when I saw what you did with the trailer wheels.😎
This looks way better than the old wheels.So you did a good job Steve
I do not like the wheels in Revell-Monogram snap kits, not in this scale nor in the 1:25th scale, they are awful representations of truck wheels that doesn't look realistic at all, they look more like wheels on a toy than on a model.
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Looks good.
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