Yep. Zepps antics during their heyday sure didn't help their reputation any. I like quite a few of their songs, but they also had some real audio turds as well. Music is subjective. what one person likes, another doesn't care for. I'm not a fan of Great White or Whitesnake either. Both lead singers are too full of themselves. I'm a zep fan, but I'm not gonna poo poo on anyone who doesn't agree.