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Pricey is right for that 1/18, but from the pics I have seen of that one, it's well worth it!

I have only ever seen the 1/18 cars there. Good places for 1/24 cars are chain drugstores (CVS, Rite Aid, Walgreen's)...

Just got this one. Decent for the money. I'm going to have to fix that blower case!

Ed- That's a nice station, those Mopars look period perfect! Mark- I happen to be working on one of those MRC stations. Those kits as they come are a little incomplete (no roof, interior or back walls). I'm trying to make one into a 2-bay, and I have made the baseplate larger as well ( by carving up two baseplates...).

Thanks for the heads-up, Ed! Looks like people are already tearing through these in the Costcos where I live! If you didn't see any of the new 1969 Chargers Maisto does now, then you might want to check some other Costcos. That's a really nice car for the money. One Costco I checked seemed to have one assortment of about 20 cars without the Chargers, and another Costco about 1/2 hour away that did have the Chargers. It's a nice model, I posted a review in a thread below in Diecasts. I'm referring to Costcos I visited in NJ and PA.

The Welly models that have grabbed my attention so far have been: the Lotus Elan (I didn't buy it, but I should have while it was there), and the Gen II VW Microbus (which I did buy). I'm now in the habit of prowling those Diecast / Beany stands at CVS's and Rite Aids...

Perhaps they should have put it in a box calling it "generic movie car"?

To sum up: parts wise, it's a straight reissue of the last General Lee release, in black plastic. Round 2 still needs to find the right hood (last seen in the circa 1987 release of the Charger 500!), and also, the grille inserts are still the 1972 units we've been getting since this was originally issued as the General Lee, way back around 1978. New decals added, here's a pic:

Here's a link to the last thread on this one:

I agree! For a long time, I held the Jo Han Hemi (as well as many other parts they did) as the gold standard for that particular part!

You can also see here how both items (AMT Six Pack, gray, left and Jo Han Hemi, Turquoise, right) capture the same bolt locations...and how nice the Jo Han item really is!

it was in my brain that they were different. It was from years of thumbing through the Year One catalog, looking at things that I could never afford for my particular car. I double-checked their catalog online, and what I found is that they sell two different reproductions for Six Pack and Hemi. It looks like the posts for the wing nuts are in different places. I seem to remember the kit parts looking like this, too, but you might be able to use one for the other in scale...the first is their listed illusrarion for the Six Pack lid, the 2nd is for their Hemi lid. I'm not sure I would call the Year One catalog the absolute last word on parts applications, but it has never steered me wrong before with my 360 and 383 cars...

No problem John! Saying that you seem to have a great interest in these cars and parts, like myself, is a bit of an understatement! I think the air cleaner in the '70 Super Bee/ '69 GTX is the only game in town for a 1/25 440 Six Pack. I think the one in the 1/24 Revell '71 GTX looks better, and I would at least try that one out, but some people are averse to mixing scales. I figure if it looks right, use it! My favorite air cleaner in this style is the one that came with the Hemis in the Jo Han '69 Road Runner and '70 Superbird- but it looks like the wingnut locations would not work for a 440 Six Pack.

Note too that the transmissions are almost all the same length. The AMT trans seems to be a little longer (tailshaft), all of the Revell trannies seem to be uncannily exactly the same, and the AMT '71 Charger tranny appears a little shorter. I think what this tells me is that probably each of these will work as a swap in for the Revell '70 Charger, but that the AMT 440 might need some tweaking like I said before. The length might not be a concern anyway, because the F&F version utilizes a blower belt, so more room would be needed up front for that. My big concern would actually be intake height, especially with the 440 Six Pack engine, as these Charger hoods can be a little unforgiving. One last thing this is telling me is that I have too many unbuilt cars and engines on my hands!

Final pic: 1) AMT Hemi 2) AMT 440 3) Revell '70 Charger Hemi 4) AMT '71 Charger 440/ "Hemi" 5) Revell '69 Charger 440 6) Revell '69 Charger Hemi Here, it looks like the AMT '71 Charger 440 is sized pretty similarly to the Revell '70 Hemi. I have Hemi in parentheses above for #4, because this was offered as a Hemi in the Street Machine variant. It used the same block as the stock 440 R/T, but the intake looked really funky, and IIRC, it used the same exhaust manifolds as the 440 (incorrect!), so the "Hemi" from that kit wouldn't be a good swap candidate in my opinion (but the '71 440 would probably be a great candidate).

Trouble uploading! ? So I changed it into a B&W pic..."so it would be there in black and white". ? From the top: 1) AMT '68 Road Runner/'69 GTX/'70 Super Bee Hemi. 2) AMT '69 GTX/'70 Super Bee 440 3) Revell '70 Charger Hemi 4) Revell '69 Charger 440 (with separate 4 speed transmission joined to it) 5) Revell '69 Charger Hemi Remember in all of this that while B/RB and Hemi blocks aren't exactly the same in 1:1, their overall length is about the same. The Hemi's added width comes from the heads. The deck height of the B (350-361-383-400) is lower than the RB (some early 383-413-426w-440) and Hemi blocks, but that difference in scale is probably negligible. Also, these observations are from basic eyeballing. I didn't put dial calipers to anything. Granted, these aren't great pics. What I have seen here though is that the AMT Hemi is about the same length as the AMT 440 (makes sense), which has, you'll remember is a smidge longer than the Revell '70 Hemi. The Revell '69 Charger 440 block does seem a bit longer than the Revell '70 Hemi. It's also longer than the Hemi block from the same ('68-'69) kit! I do want to say that I think the Revell '69 Charger 440 is probably the BEST RB block I have ever seen in scale. Will it fit the '70 Charger? I don't know for sure, but I would try it. I think at least the height will not be a concern, because the '69's, like the '70's have a similarly low hood. I have a theory as to why the 440 and the Hemi from the Revell '68-'69 Chargers are sized differently: I think it's because the designers at Revell have been working off of the same 1/25 Hemi design since they worked up the engine in the '67 GTX. It's not a bad thing, as it's a really nice engine, but I think maybe it's slightly underscale. I did not have one of those handy, but I seem to remember it's sized and proportioned very similarly to all of these other Revell engines, and also, the Hemis' dimensions from their 1/25 Charger, Cuda and GTX kits seem to match each other so well. They probably took a clean sheet approach for the 440 engine in that kit. I think the '69 Dart came later, so that might have been yet another clean sheet.

That's coming up soon, Rob!

I did some comparison of a few engines, going back to what was said about swaps earlier in the thread. This fire pic shows (top to bottom): top- AMT 440 from the '70 Coronet Super Bee and '69 GTX kits, 2nd: Hemi from the Revell Fast & Furious '70 Charger (we're going to assume for the moment that the upcoming R/T kit will be using the same block), 3rd: 383-440 from the Revell '68 and '69 Dodge Dart kits, and bottom: new tool Revell '70 Hemi 'Cuda. My lens is not going to show this too well, but I have observed that like I said above, there is some extra length to the AMT 440 block. I wouldn't say it will be a bad candidate for the swap, just that you might have to be prepared for a little tweaking. It does look like the engine front for the 440 engine is a little slimmer than that of the Revell '70 Charger Hemi, so you might get a little room back on that. It does also look like the Revell 383-440 Dart engine's length is more or less the same, so- probably a good fit. It seems like the '70 Charger Hemi and the '70 Cuda Hemi size up very similarly, so what will fit one will probably fit the other, too.

Hmmm...I would figure that if the bend in the shifter is not too severe, you might be able to cut it down to a correct console sized shifter. You would hope that it wasn't a mistake, and that maybe they made it that way to give builders more options...

I will probably compare these engines at some point. All are really excellent renditions of the B/RB engines, really the best in scale. I have noticed that the overall outside dimensions of the "same" engines in scale from different kits often do not match up size wise. I think this is a function of each kit being designed on it's own, and for some kits once they get down to the engine bay, the designers might have to reduce the dimensions of some engines to ensure that it will all fit. Also, I think I have read somewhere recently where a certain seasoned kit designer has admitted to scaling up certain engines in some kits in order to fill the engine bay better. From what I remember, the Hemi and 440 engines from the Revell 68 and 69 Chargers are a little on the large side compared to these others (although in my opinion these Charger engines are probably the best ones by way of looks). I think it's partly because the transmission is separate for these engines, so it adds just a little length. The Hemi in the new 70 Charger looks a little on the small (short) side- just like the Hemi in the '67 GTX, Charger and Coronet & the '70 Hemi Cuda. I think the 383/440 from the Dart kit is also on the smaller side. The 440 from the '71 also compares to it. I had a mess of these engines out and was looking at them a few weeks ago. I'm probably going to get them out again soon and see how the all compare. I'll be sure to publish my research! If I were going to swap something into the '70 Charger, I would probably reach for the '71 Charger engine because it has more accessories, and a more appropriate air cleaner. To your point about A/C - I would probably grab an 8-3/4 from the '67 GTX/ Coronet kit, or the Dart kit. I try to pick up the Darts, GTX's & 68-69 Chargers for parts whenever I can, because the chassis & engines are very, very nice in these kits, as you know. ?

Michael, I agree with all of your points. And you did a great job correcting that body. Now I know it would be worth the effort!

It's somewhat the same body as the original '69 Annual. The scoops in the doors, the cowl vents, the emblems, front fender edges and the rear window have been revised back and forth quite a bit since 1969, so these areas are not too good anymore, but the basic body still has a good shape. Yeah- maybe starting all over would be best? The problem is: people like me have been buying this kit, warts and all, pretty consistently over it's run. It's a sentimental favorite of mine, since I first started building as a kid in the '70's. I built TONS of these, converting many of them to stock '68's, Daytonas, race cars, & street machines (fat tires, traction bars, loud paint, the works) back when they were the only game in town. I think they'll always have some buyers, so there is no real incentive for Round 2 to do any heavy revision to the body. We're lucky as it is that RC2 revised the back window back when they did the Fast & Furious car. I just wish they would find the Charger 500 hood (aka- the real stock one they included in the first issue of the Charger 500 kit, circa 1987), and the original '69 Grille inserts (not the '72's we've been getting all this time).

I'm wondering, with Round 2's love for licensed subjects, why they did not simply issue these kits as either "Death Proof" or "Drive Angry" Chargers? You can actually build either car pretty faithfully right from the current kit contents (hood and grille inserts nothwithstanding). Those are two movie boxes I would probably pay for!!! They could also do something pretty close to the Ghost Rider car featured in Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D., if they used most of the custom parts from their "Fast and Furious" release several years back. FREE MARKETING IDEAS, Round 2!!! I mean, practically all of the parts are there! 3 new releases from this old tool!! I might just have to make me up some fake boxes!!! ?

I found this one tonight at Costco. For the price, it's actually pretty nice!

it's the only game in town, Good Buddy! Amazing that every single '67-'69 Barracuda in 1/25 scale came from the same single set of molds. Fortunately, the body and interior are pretty accurate, at least for a '69. The body is a little tired, but still looks like a Barracuda to my eye. I did end up getting a few of the Retro Deluxes- I like that the rear seat filler, "racing console", and custom parts made it back in. The new decals, white plastic, and slicks don't hurt, either!