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Yes, the original annual '69 came with both a slant 6 engine and a Hemi engine. If you have seen the hemi engine from the Fireball 500 car, the hemi that came in the original '69 is similar. Neither of these engines were any great loss - the big block that comes with it now is at least decent. It looks like they cloned the big block from MPC's '74 Road Runner and Monaco cop cars. After putting out the '69 annual, they modified the tool to put out the Miss Might Mopar and Great Street Machines 'Cudas. They ditched the slant 6 and the custom parts, offered the Hemi only, and changed the side marker lenses to '68 style on the rear quarters and blank on the front fenders. The grille & taillights remained '69. They later issued these as the Killer 'Cuda (with decals inspired by the cartoon 'Cudas used in Mopar's advertising from the late '60's) and The Avenger. The Avenger was the last time the Hemi was seen. in the mid '80's, ERTL redid the body to mostly stock '69 configuration (without fixing the backup lights on the rear valence- the last time they were seen was the '69 annual). That's also when they added the big block engine, which to me was a good move- that Hemi really wasn't any great shakes- at least the 383/440 looks more the part. I think with this reissue they added some value without spending too much money- it's nice to see the custom parts back, and the kit in white plastic. The new wheels look like the same ones from the recent '67 Charger issue, whereas the original custom wheels were kind of weird. The decals are pretty nice, better than the originals here, too. I'm going to pick one or two of these up.

http://www.mopar1.us/6971codes.html Or maybe Tortoise Grain? See code V4Y - if that's on your Fender Tag, that might explain it...

I think the vinyl top pattern was called "Gator Grain". It was not a common option. It looks like reproduction material is available from Legendary Interiors, but it's pretty expensive. I'm not sure how you would replicate that in scale- perhaps you could make a decal of the pattern somehow in a slightly darker green than the vinyl top. It looks like the "scales" are pretty glossy, devoid of texture. In going to MANY Mopar shows (including Carlisle for the past 20 years), I have only seen Gator Grain tops on a small handful of cars.

Great pics, thanks for sharing! I agree with you, those wheels aren't as "Mopar-y" as the ones in the '68 Fury cop car. I'm planning to do one of these conversions, but I think I'll just order the hood and paint the kit interior black and live with it. Thanks again! No Problem, Snake!!! I will say with Don's announced retirement date he may be so busy casting just to keep up, rather than doing new molds If the retirement date was not an issue, I honestly think some molds would be updated if he had a few more years to recoup the cost of new masters. But I am buying as much of his products as I have the funds to (probably more than!!!). I sure wish I had a valid reason for him to continue!! There was a small note enclosed with my order, stating that as molds wear out, they will be discontinuing some parts and kits. Makes sense, as they are winding it down. I have a few more orders I want to send myself!!!

The Modelhaus sell the interior on it's own- I think they also sell the Jo Han '69 GTX interior (which was what you got with the original '69 Road Runner).

Got my Modelhaus order today...see my pics of their Conversion kit to make a 440 6-BBL car from Jo Han's '69 Road Runner...it's in the Aftermarket section...

Got my Modelhaus order today. Many people here wonder what their parts are like. Here is their conversion for Jo Han's 1969 Plymouth Road Runner, to make it into a 440 6-BBL car. This is the kit without tires. Note the factory style interior, but that the sides have been cast separately (probably to facilitate pulls out of the mold). I can't speak 100% for the accuracy of these parts, but to me, they look good. I'm not crazy about the wheels- I think Jo Han's steel wheels (that came in their '68 Plymouth Police car and other kits) look more the part of Mopar steelies. If I had to guess, these look like they're based on something else, perhaps from an AMT kit? Like their '58 Chevy? These castings are really nice quality, it looks like it would not take too much at all to clean them up and use them.

Regarding Mopar applications, I know this much: 1) 14" only- Mopar never offered 15" Magnums, but a popular swap is to 15" Magnums from Ford (same bolt pattern). 2) after a certain point, Mopar only offered the trim ring style. I think this was '69 and after, through most of the '70's (they were even occasionally seen on Volares and Aspens). 3) Mopar Magnums always got medium or large/ long length center caps with a white insert (unlike Ford for instance who sometimes offered short center caps with red inserts). There was a silver circle in the white center, but in scale this would not show up. Getting into what was stock for other manufacturers (AMC, Olds, Chevy, Ford and Mercury), I'm not nearly as knowledgeable. Also, they were an aftermarket wheel on their own (made by a company called Motor Wheel). I have seen a few other GM and Ford kit Magnums that look pretty good (the ones in the JoHan '70 Cutlass come to mind). You're right in that it would all depend on what you're building. There have got to be at least a dozen or more varieties of Magnums available in scale. The only ones I don't like are the ones in the Revell '67 GTX and the ones in the Jo Han '72 Torino.

Ok...pics. Sorry for the crappy picture quality, but maybe this will help? Left to right: 1)AMT '68 Road Runner/ '69 GTX/ '70 Super Bee, 2) Revell '68 and '69 Charger, 3) JoHan Road Runner, 4) JoHan AMX From what I see: 1 and 2 are definitely trim ring style. 3 seems more like the non-trim ring style (I see a crease where the face of the trim ring would normally be), and 4 looks a lot like 3, but looks more like the trim ring style to my eyes (even though it looks nearly identical to 3). I think if a sample of each were painted up, we'd be better able to see. I do know that the JoHan RR wheels seem more so like the non trim ring style when they're painted, but I don't have easy access to a painted one right now.

I had thought the Magnum 500's in the Johan '69 Road Runner were the non-trim ring style? I have several sets of these I would want to use for Revell '67 GTX's and the like (since the ones in the Revell '67 GTX seem to scale out way bigger than 14" in 1/25 scale). The trim ring style Magnums in the AMT '68 RR/'69 GTX / '70 Super Bee are also very nice. What was the crossover year for Mopars again? I had thought that the non-trim ring style were used for '67 and '68, then for '69 they went to the trim ring style? Which would then make it more odd that Johan's '69 comes with the non-trim ring style and AMT's '68 comes with the trim ring style wheels?

I think the ones in the Revell 1968 and 69 Dodge Chargers are very nice.

Oh- and Hugo/ 440 6BBL- I'm really digging the '72 build you're showing up there!

I just noticed that you said you purchased hidden headlights and a flat hood for this build. The flat hood would mean the car is not a Rallye, since they always came with a bulge hood (which was like the 71's, except that it did not have the louvres in it like the '71 kit's hood.). If that's the case, then you could probably reliably start on the '71 kit. Here's graphic that shows all of the models. Note that the Rallye models have the door indentations, and that the SE has a slightly different quarter window. If it's an SE, then I think modifying the quarter window as you need should not be that hard. Note that the SE for '72 got a unique quarter window treatment, different than the one on the more familiar '73 and '74 cars.

Derrick- the first thing you have to find out is: what submodel is the Charger? In '72, the top performance model was the Rallye- the R/T wasn't offered that year. If it's a Rallye, then the car should have special 1972-Rallye specific doors- each with 5 indentations in them. Any other '72 Charger model got plain doors. If it's a Rallye, then the best starting point would be MPC's old annual '72 Charger- that has the door indentations. These are not exactly cheap when you find them. The AMT '71 kit was tooled up almost 30 years later, so in some respects, the AMT kit is that much nicer (especially the chassis and engine). You could always kitbash the old MPC body with the AMT kit, but if the car you are building is not a Rallye, then you would probably be better off converting the AMT '71 into a '72 with Missing Link's excellent conversion parts. If you need the door indentations, I would even consider maybe carving them into the AMT body after filling in the '71 door gills (no easy task, but you might be able to do it carefully with a Dremel tool and the right bit). In any case, research the car as much as you can, and keep asking questions- we all love to chime in here!

I have bought the Time Machine Resin '71 Challenger Pace Car kit. Quality on that one is very nice, cast in white resin, & the casting and master work seems really good.

I like this new one. Put me down for a few! I have the hardtop and I'm wanting this one even more. I like the street toy vibe. With some parts swapping, it can be made into something more stock- but then again, who keeps them stock??? I'm especially looking forward to the drag radials. A buddy of mine has a 1:1 '65 Satellite hardtop. It was a clean old car when he bought it about 15 years ago. It was built with a gold body, gold interior (with buckets and console) and a cream painted top. He kept the stock 273 in it for quite some time, and added Cragars to the front and kept body color steelies (no caps) in the back. He added a Hemi hood scoop. He doesn't have the cash to build a 'correct' Hemi for it (moot anyway, as the only factory Hemis that year were sedans) so instead, he built what I call the doomsday engine ('cause it looked so Bad on the stand)- a 440 with a Max Wedge top end. He put that in, so the car is fun and has a great vintage vibe. My point is: my friend's car isn't 100% correct, but it gets a LOT of attention, and is a lot of fun. I think this is how many of your true "street toys" end up. I think this kit has been equipped just right. The buildup with the hubcaps could almost pass for an FBI car.

Hey Dave- this is looking really good. I take it you got the package of parts that I sent?

Non-acetone nail polish remover. Use tissues or paper towels. Go slowly & use just a little bit to start. It should bite into the white graphics first, but if you work too aggressively, you could cut into the red paint, especially around the edges. I used this stuff to wipe the graphics off of a 1/18 scale General Lee some time ago- no small feat. I also wiped the Pepsi graphics off of a First Gear Dodge A-100 Van. Go slowly to start and you'll get the technique. The Speedway pickup should be the perfect first time project for this.

Yup- not pad stamped, but the slicks are nice, at least. I have about 100 sets of the others, nice to get something different. The sinks don't seem nearly as bad as the last 80's body (in black) that I looked over. The new decals are pretty sweet. There was a fella I read about in Mopar Collector's Guide a few years back that did up his 1:1 '67 to mimic these decals. Turned out pretty nice from what I remember.

Sorry they're late. Here are some pics:

Here are some pics of what's in the box. Here are a few things I noticed: 1) I believe that the last several reissues did not include stock exhausts- just the rear axle molded with the exhausts blocked off. This new one has the stock exhaust pipes. 2) it looks like the Super Stock- style headers have been included as well. I think these were missing from the last few releases. IIRC, these were used as the stock, drag, and NASCAR exhaust headers in the original '66 and '67 annuals. 3) Mickey Thompson cheater slicks have been included, with 4 MPC polyglas GT's. The MT's were in the '70's issue that used this original box art, and the Polyglas tires are the type you typically saw in the mid-'70's MPC Impala kits, as well as all of the Dukes General Lee Chargers. These tires look right on a stock style build of this car. 4) All of the speed parts from the '74 issue, as well as the parts from the '80's issue are included. This is really a nice array of vintage speed parts that could be used on many other builds: blower, side pipes, headers with separate collectors and gaskets, traction bars, etc.

Thanks, Scott! By the way- two notes about this reissue: 1) it's more or less the same as the '80's Street Machine release, so it has '70's-'80's style modular wheels as well as a nice optional blower set up. They only added the American Racing wheels so that the contents would be the more or less the same as the '70's issue. 2) while it can't be built stock out of the box, all it would really take are: stock intake, carbs, and air cleaner, exhaust manifolds, exhaust pipes and wheels. Good period replacements can be found in any recent MPC '69 Charger (500 or Daytona), and better replacements could be pretty easily adapted from either AMT's '68 Road Runner / '69 GTX or Revell's '67 GTX/ Coronet/ Charger kits. If you want the hubcap style wheels, try Modelhaus has them, along with a '66 interior, if that's what you want. Back in the late '80's, I built one of the street machines stock, using the intake, exhaust & headers from the Charger 500, and the wheels from a Jo Han '69 Road Runner (which I think are the best representation of the '67-'68 style - without trim ring- Magnum 500 wheel ever done). I'll post some pics of that moldy oldy if I can dig it out. Personally, I really feel that the MPC kit has it all over the Revell kit by way of the body details. I think the Revell kit looks funny in the grille and it has a squashed appearence in the roof. The MPC looks perfect to my eye. I'm glad to see the MPC back. My ideal build would use MPC's body set up with Revell's chassis & engine, perhaps also using Revell's interior.

Here's a link to an older topic giving some details on the original '66 & '67 Chargers. The ones I have come across seem to back all of this up: the '66's came with the slot car interior and no clear hood, the '67's came with clear hood & injector stacks, and no slot car interior. Both years came with optional custom front & rear pans, optional custom grilles & taillights. Both years came with NASCAR parts as well.

Hey Craig, If you're interested in selling the figure, please message me. Thanks! -Bill S.