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Bill Jenkins Grumpys Toy 1972 Nova
Rattus Patrolus replied to GEORGE LEMIRE's topic in Model Building Questions and Answers
Just a bit more info - According to Jenkins the Nova started out as a L79 327 Chevy test car that was given to him by Chevrolet so it originally wasn’t a SS or a 396 car….although it had the SS grill emblem, it did not have the wider chrome trim or the hood vents. The car ran the same L78 solid lifter 396cid engine as his Camaro. Hedrick won SS/D at the SpringNats, and Hedrick was r/up in SS/D to Sox’s 440 car at Indy. Jenkins won class at the SuperStock Magazine Nationals against a ‘who’s who’ list. Grump then took it to the World Champs final, where he ran r/up to Stricklers SS/F Z28. The car was then sold. It was raced and wrecked out later. -
Best to go to my web site - Top Stock and SS results, factoring and Meet information from 1961-1969. https://skunkwerkssuperstock.wordpress.com/1968-2/
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Sorry guys, I should have explained - NHRA ‘classed’ Stock and Superstock by dividing weight by ‘factored’ HP. Sometimes that was factory HP…..but after 1965 ‘re-factoring’ became more common in SuperStock. EG - The 425hp 65 Race Hemi was re-factored to 500hp. For what its worth….the ‘Factored HP’ did not represent the true HP - BUT, NHRA had to fit the slowest and the fastest into 10 SS classes…..most of the Superstockers made way over the factory rating.
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1969 SS/D 7.0-7.49 68 396/425hp 4V L89 Camaro stick (435HP) - 7.27 - 3162 68 426/425hp 8V in-line Str Hemi Plymouth Roadrunner Coupe (480HP) - 7.43- 3569 67 427/425hp 8V med riser steel Fairlane 500 2dr H/top (460HP) - 7.43- 3420 67 396/375hp 4V L78 Camaro FHC stick (425HP) - 7.44- 3161 68 396/375hp 4V L78 Camaro stick (425HP) - 7.44 - 3162 68 426/425hp 8V in-line Str Hemi Dodge Superbee (480HP) 7.47 - 3585 68 426/425hp 8V in-line Str Hemi Plymouth Roadrunner H/top (480HP) - 7.49- 3595 SS/E 7.5- 7.99 69 427/425hp 4V 69 L72 Camaro Man (445HP) -7.53 - 3352 68 426/425hp 8V in-line Str Hemi Dodge Coronet Deluxe H/Top (480HP) 7.55 - 3625 66/67 426/425hp 8V in line Street Hemi Plym Belv I 2dr sed(480hp)- 7.58 - 3638 69 396/425hp 4V L89 Camaro FHC stick, (435HP) - 7.60- 3306 64 426/425hp 8V Alloy Maxwedge 2dr Plym Savoy sed (Cold air) - 7.61 - 3234 69 390/340hp 8V AMC AMX coupe (400HP) - 7.62 - 3048 69 426/425hp 8V in-line Str Hemi Plymouth Roadrunner Coupe (480HP) - 7.64- 3668 68 426/425hp 8V Str Hemi Plymouth GTX (480HP) - 7.65 - 3671 67 426/425hp 8V in-line St Hemi Plym Belv Htop RO23 (Cold air) (480hp) - 7.65 - 3672 69 426/425hp 8V in-line Street Hemi Dodge Superbee (480HP) -7.66 - 3676 67 426/425hp 8V in-line St Hemi Coronet H/top WO23 (Cold air) (480hp) - 7.68 - 3676 69 426/425hp 8V in-line Str Hemi Plymouth Roadrunner H/Top (480HP) - 7.68 - 3685 69 396/425hp 4V L89 Camaro Auto (435HP) -7.69 - 3346 63 426/415hp 8V Alloy Maxwedge Plym Savoy 2dr sed (Cold air)- 7.73 - 3207 65 427/425hp 8V med riser Ford Custom 2dr sedan (460hp) - 7.74- 3560 67 426/425hp 8V inline St Hemi Plym GTX H/top (flat hood) (480HP)-7.75 - 3722 69 426/425hp 8V in-line Street Hemi Dodge Coronet R/T (480HP) -7.75 - 3720 69 396/375hp 4V L78 Camaro FHC stick, (425HP) - 7.78 - 3306 63 426/415hp 8V Alloy Maxwedge Dodge 330 2dr sed (Cold air)- 7.79 - 3232 67 427/ 410hp 4V med riser, glass Fairlane 500 2dr sed (420HP) - 7.80 - 3280 69 426/425hp 8V Str Hemi Plymouth GTX H/top (480HP) - 7.82 - 3754 67 426/425hp 8V inline St Hemi Dodge Coronet R/T,Flat hood, (480HP)- 7.83 - 3758
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Rattus Patrolus started following Bill Jenkins Grumpys Toy 1972 Nova and Dick Landy 68 Coronet
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At the risk of being critical, NO 68/69 Coronet,Bee or Roadrunner ran in SS/B, in 68 or 69. The Street Hemis were too slow for that class after 1967. Below is the factoring for these cars in 1968 and 1969. (NHRA Re-factoring in brackets) 1968 SS/C 7.00-7.69 67 427/425hp 8V, med riser (glass) Fairlane 500 2dr sed (470HP) - 7.02 - 3300 67 427/425hp 8V, med riser steel Fairlane Club 2dr sed (460HP) - 7.17- 3300 67 427/425hp 8V, med riser (glass) Fairlane 500 2dr H/top (470HP) - 7.19 - 3380 67 427/425hp 8V med riser Mercury Comet 202 (460HP) - 7.19 - 3308 68 396/425hp 4V L89 Camaro stick (435HP) - 7.27 - 3162 68 426/425hp 8V in-line Str Hemi Plymouth Roadrunner Coupe (480HP) - 7.43- 3569 67 427/425hp 8V, med riser steel Fairlane 500 2dr H/top (460HP) - 7.43- 3420 67 396/375hp 4V L78 Camaro Coupe stick (425HP) - 7.44 - 3161 68 396/375hp 4V L78 Camaro stick (425HP) - 7.44 - 3162 (SS/C) 68 426/425hp 8V in-line Str Hemi Dodge Superbee (480HP) 7.47 - 3585 68 426/425hp 8V in-line Str Hemi Plymouth Roadrunner H/top (480HP) - 7.49- 3595 68 426/425hp 8V in-line Str Hemi Dodge Coronet Deluxe H/Top (480HP) 7.55 - 3625 66/67 426/425hp 8V in line Street Hemi Plym Belv I 2dr sed(480hp)- 7.58 - 3638 64 426/425hp 8V Alloy Maxwedge 2dr Plym Savoy sed (Cold air) - 7.61 - 3234 67 426/425hp 8V in-line St Hemi Plym Belv Htop RO23 (Cold air) (480hp) - 7.65 - 3672 68 426/425hp 8V Str Hemi Plymouth GTX (480HP) - 7.65 - 3671 68 427/425hp 4V L72 Yenko Chevy Nova auto (435HP) - 7.65- 3325 67 426/425hp 8V in-line St Hemi Coronet H/top WO23 (Cold air) (480hp) - 7.68 - 3676
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Bill Jenkins Grumpys Toy 1972 Nova
Rattus Patrolus replied to GEORGE LEMIRE's topic in Model Building Questions and Answers
Jenkins 68 Nova was usually driven by Ed Hedrick, in SS/D class, except the World Finals. The car ran an L78 396cid /375hp engine, re-factored by the NHRA to 425hp. Although Jenkins claimed his L78s were making close to 500hp - the track hp works to around 450hp. The cars entry #s were as follows: 68 Spring Nationals and US Indy Nationals - 704 68 World Finals -701. The car was only raced by Jenkins for 1 year. -
Sox and Martin 1969 Road Runner ,,?
Rattus Patrolus replied to gtx6970's topic in WIP: Drag Racing Models
Lets straighten up the ‘urban myth’ a bit… 1969 - S&M ran a 69 Roadrunner in SS/E - It did nothing. Too heavy. (See attached) Also, a 68 Roadrunner with 69 trim in 1969, at the 69 Nationals. This car WON SS/D (against T. Marsh’s 64 T-Bolt, the last year a T-Bolt could be legally entered under the 5 year rule.) The car was driven by Herb McCandless, running 11.29 @ 114.35. WHY - The 69 Hemi RR wasn’t competitive in class - SS/E. The 68 WAS very competitive in SS/D…so to be both competitive and keep their Chrysler bosses happy, the idea of ‘uptrimming’ the 68 was formed…..it ran in the ‘68’ class..but sold the ‘69 image’. It worked. Re-GTX In 68 - The 68 GTX ran a 4V 440 in SS/F - this is the pic most often posted with McCandless driving #861 (see attached) I have no info on a 69 GTX being raced. Re-Roadrunner 1968 - The 68 Hemi RR fell towards the very BOTTOM of SS/C class in 68 (Unlike 69) - SS/C was ‘Jenkins class’, so S&M chose to race the 67 Street Hemi GTX (Not the RO23) for most of 68 in SS/D. There is a famous pic of the two 68s and the 67 in the paddock at a major meet - S&M knew the 68 Hemi car would be un-competitive. (See attached) NOTE- There is a misprinted result sheet claiming S&M 68 Plym won class SS/D at Indy 68 - it was actually the 67 GTX flat hood car. NOTE 2 - Interestingly in 68, a 67 RO23 DID win SS/CA..while Jenkins won SS/C….Again.