6bblbird
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I remember the Mr. Muscle commercials on T.V. many years ago. It looks as though it is still sold world wide under the Mr. Muscle brand name but here in the U.S. it is now a Drano branded product.
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Misleading thread title...
I knew exactly what it meant 'cause i'm very old! "You will get the Rat's revenge!"
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I love the creativity! Rule book? We don't need no stinkin' rule book!
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Mainly the cars that race.
No, the ones that do wheelies.
Look at this, it's at the back.
And this one
My uncle's car has it on the back as well.
I believe that those photos were taken at a non sanctioned track. Tech inspection is usually not that serious when there is no sanctioning body or state police to worry about.
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I can see why you won. Very nicely done!
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Great car! Cool details too!
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I was just saying that on all the cars I've seen the loop was on the back. I wasn't trying to be rude there either. But, I'll look up the rules.
And I was just joking about the last part, you know.
What cars are you looking under?
Certainly not cars that have to pass a NHRA technical inspection.As far as the pole vaulting thing goes, back in 1964 at L.I.'s Westhampton dragstrip a Max Wedge car called The Mad Russian broke the front u-joint at speed. The car literally "pole vaulted" into the woods that lined the track. The car was a total wreck and everything was retrieved except the torque converter.
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I don't remember Dick as much of a potty mouth, but Shirley? Oh my, she could make me blush and I'm a native New Yorker who has worked in the auto repair industry for most of my life.
Dick was an incredibly nice guy whom I befriended when he drove my road runner at L.I. Dragway in 1993.
I'm the tall one on the left. My friend, Top Fuel Tony, looks like he could have been one of Landy's kin.
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P.S. Now that we have thoroughly hijacked this thread.........back to Niko's Nova.
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Terry is a geezer like me. He was around when Stockers didn't have roll bars, and no helmets were required, and you could wear shorts and flip flops while racing!
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Well don't worry about it there young man...you are doing very well right now. You are really "into" building models right now so there will always be the next one you can try the technique on. One other thing...may I ask if you are building this car to American NHRA rules or rules from Finland? Because I don't know about Finnish drag rules, but American NHRA rules for stock classes requires that the rear seat has to stay in the car.
Ummm don't try to confuse the kid! I do believe that he knows the rules quite well. You absolutely are allowed to remove the rear seat in a Stock Eliminator car if you install a roll bar. It is also allowable to trim the leading and trailing edge of the wheel openings a maximum two inches for tire clearance.
WF (SFI tech inspector and 1:1 Stock Eliminator racer)
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You don't have to use the twin plug set-up. Even Sox & Martin didn't always use it. Aside from being a pain in the a$$ to wire, It doesn't always look so good. In addition, you may spend a lot of time trying to do good job only to find that the hood does not close when you are done! Ask me how I know!
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Other than the body (minus the hood) and possibly the chassis pan, there is not much in the Johan kit that lends itself to a Super Stock build. You would be better off using just about any other 'cuda or Challenger kit for a more correct build.
Here is a '70s era Super Stocker that I built using a Revell die cast as a base:
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Thanks, guys!!! Thanks for the help, I will paint that engine orange then, and oil pan, water pump and heads too. How About the intake manifold, that's the only part, I don't know yet?
And I'm not building exactly that Sox&Martin Car, just Vintage Super Stocker just like it could race on these days too, but still looking like Vintage SuperStocker.
Hi Niko! It's your friendly, Stock/Super Stock guru!
You can paint that engine any color that you like. That is what engine builders do. There are no rules on drive line paint colors.
As far as building the Johan, Sox & Martin '71 'cuda as a Super Stocker ( vintage or otherwise) you will have to find a stock hood as fiberglass hoods with scoops are not legal in traditional NHRA classes and are not accepted in most current Nostalgia S/S groups. Depending on the engine that you decide to use you will also have to source a stock style carburetor or carburetors and an intake manifold. The individual runner manifold used in the Pro Stock kit would also not be legal.
You could, however, build it as a Nostalgia Pro Stocker avoid the hassles of digging up all of the parts to make it "correct".
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The chassis in the AMT Drag Strip Accessories kit that I have is definitely chrome. The chassis in the Double Dragster kit is white styrene.
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Looks good! But why are you labeling it a Gasser when it's not? You have it clearly marked as an A/Super Stock class car on the window.... which is correct for Arnie Beswick's 62 Pontiac.
If that car was raced with that non stock hood scoop, it could be classified a Gasser or Modified Production car. There were times when a racer would change parts on a Stock class car to run in Gas or M/P. The reason? It might be more competitive in a lesser populated class or the car may have been able to set a record in one of those other categories with a few parts changes, like a non legal intake and carbs. By simply removing the front bumper on a legal Stocker you would turn your car into a Gasser!
It was quite common in the seventies for Pro Stock cars to compete in the Gas classes when they would not be able to qualify in a tight Pro Stock field.
WF
P.S. Depending on on certain equipment and the year it was raced, that car could have run in Stock, Super Stock, Factory Experimental, Gas, or Modified Production.
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"Sorry, you are not authorized to view this album."
Huh? What did I do wrong?
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Oh man! This one has it all! Uniqueness, great imagination, detail, presentation, paint,........... you nailed it on every point!
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Terrific! Bob, you have taken what I consider a piece of $%#@ kit and turned it into a piece of jewelery! Great detail work throughout and a perfectly executed paint job!
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Thanks for that 6bblbird. I didn't realise Gasser class existed that long. If I build an early-mid seventies Gasser I'll have to look at some pics to get an idea of a class designation. I have no idea how the weight breakdown or anything goes for that time period. Do you think folks would have used a Hydro Stick tranny into the 70's?
I have a few sets of those wide slicks I mentioned above and thought about using a set for a change. I was wondering what year they started making tires this wide. They are 16mm wide which should be the same as 16inches in 1:1 terms. Pretty fat stuff. Anybody got an idea?
I'm sure that someone may have used a hydro stick in to the early '70s but you would find far more racers using 4 speeds with clutches, especially Chrysler "Hemi Boxes". A lot of non-competitive Pro Stock cars found their way into the A and B Gas classes using tires no wider than 12 inches. Sixteen inch wide tires would be way too large for any gasoline fueled car in the '70s.
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Hey noname!
I think that I can help you with your first question, not so much with the second one.
The Gas classes existed well past 1972. You could say that the actual Gasser classes were absorbed into the Altered classes and ran in Competition Eliminator after Modified Eliminator was axed in 1982. Modified was replaced by Super Gas. I believe that the IHRA kept many Gas classes intact through the '90s.
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Great concept and execution! I also like the second paint scheme. The first was way too busy.
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Ken, you build some really nice stuff! The photography ain't to shabby either!
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Jungle in a Mopar!!!!! PURE BLASPHEMY!!! That is sooo wrong
Great build though! Nice detail work. I especially like the black trim around the windows.And you.......
no offense and i dont know if you made them or they came in that kit, but those little wings on the sides in front of the rear tires look stupid. I'm sure they possibly serve some purpose but to me they just look idiotic
should probably ask some questions or do some research before you stick your foot in your mouth!
Certainly not cars that have to pass a NHRA technical inspection.
Great build though! Nice detail work. I especially like the black trim around the windows.
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Ha ha, the kids here have no idea what we are talking about!
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