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The graphics (decals) came out real nice!
WF
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I have to agree with everyone else..This is an extremely clean and well built model.
WF
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O.K. I might have an explanation for the photos in Muscle Machines. Here they are:
We have a tendency to forget that the NHRA was not the only game in town. Many Pro racers actively raced for NHRA, AHRA, and IHRA points and cash.
I believe that the Sox photo may have been taken at Rockingham Dragway (AHRA at the time). The hill on the left of Sox's car is a clue. The "staging tower" in the Landy picture is certainly not from any NHRA National Event track in 1968. If the AHRA had a different factoring system from NHRA for SS cars(I'm sure that they did) that would explain the SS/E designation. Unfortunately I do not have a AHRA rule book or classification guide for the period in question to back myself up.
Anyone notice that Sox's car has no turn signal lamps in the grille?
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suprised that Walter didn't know this one. Landy had a 440 Dart for SS/E before the Hemi SS/B-A cars. i think the 440 car and one of the Hemi cars still exist today, whereabouts of the second Hemi car are unknown.
Oh I do know that, but the question was about the Hemmings story that states that the Hemi cars of Landy and Sox ran in SS/E.
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That sure is confusing. This I know for a fact. LO23 and BO29 cars never ran in SS/E or SS/EA in NHRA sanctioned competition. I have the Hemmings article that states Landy's Dart was running in SS/E but I think the photo of the Dart may be distorted.I believe that it actually has a SS/B designationon the windshield with the B just looking somewhat like an E.
Anyone have a better explanation?
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COOL! I really like the low slung look. Looks more like a late '70s era car.
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Sorry Wayne,but you are not correct. Every one of those photos posted is of a magneto regardless of the cap design.
Long before Monza bodys were racing, all of the fuel burners would be using magnetos. Some mags used in the '60s and '70s had caps that made them look like distributors but be assured,....they were magnetos. No way could a battery operated, passenger car style ignition system fire a load of nitro.
This Cirello type mag was very popular in the '60s. Looks like a distributor doesn't it?
Magnetos were used in race cars long before drag racing was even invented. You will find that they were pretty much required equipment in really hot cars from day one!
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I consider myself a pretty knowledgeable Mopar guy. I've owned and raced both Hemi and wedge cars since 1972 and have never heard the term "Max Hemi" until today. Oh well, live and learn.
WF
P.S. I do like the story behind the build.
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I am truly speechless! Another great one John!
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Some say that it was cartoonist Tom Medley that inspired the use of parachutes on drag cars via a cartoon that he penned in the mid 1950s. His work was often seen in Hot Rod magazine and Car Toons.
This is from The Ultimate Hot Rod Dictionary:A-Bombs to Zoomies by Jeff Breitenstein
"The first use of a parachute in a hot rodding application came in 1958 when racer Abe Carson contracted chute engineer Jim Deist to adapt a chute to the flathead powered Hartman and Carson dragster. By 1960, big name drivers like Tommy Ivo and Art Chrisman were strong chute proponents, furthering the systems popularity. During the mid 1960s, dual parachute systems were introduced, providing still greater slowing potential. Today, drag chutes are typically mandated on vehicles capable of speeds exceeding 150 miles per hour in the quarter-mile."
The Deist website claims that Jim Deist designed and installed the first drag racing chute in 1959 but gives no other details.
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At first,I thought that you were going to build an Altered Wheelbase match racer of some sort. Now I see that what you want to build is a Street Freak! That car most likely has a stock K frame in it as the engine has not been set back and it uses the original steering box. Go for it! Its gonna be cool.
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Actually, either way would work. BUT... as you are building a 'replica' you need to be right on the money as to what they had. All I can suggest is to do more digging and see if you can find more material on the subject you have chosen. With the info you have and have provided, it's as much a ###### shoot to us as it is to you!
TimP
I have studied AWB Mopar B Bodies for a long time and have built a few. I can tell you that they were built both ways! There were no rules when it came to fabricating these cars. Seeing how the stock K frames weighed so much and that most every one of these cars had a severe engine set back, it would make no sense to leave it in the car once a straight axle had been installed as its suspension, steering, and engine mounting functions would no longer be needed. Its main purpose would be to mount the steering box.
Steve Magnante did a series on how to build an AWB car for the Mopar Max e-zine.. See link: My link This is an example of a car built with the K frame in the car. He says in the article that this is the "quick and dirty" way to build one of these cars.
It was also quite common for racers to remove the K member, reinforce or replace the front frame rails, and mount a steering box to the new rail "Gasser"style. So, be like the original Funny Car racers, and be creative. Build it your way!
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Wow! Nice stuff. I don't build Pro Mod style cars but I can appreciate all of the work and scratchbuilding involved since there really are no kits available. Again..very nice!
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From an old Stock class racer.....I love it! Very nice job.
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That one doesn't work either.
Both links work o.k. for me.
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I had a great time building this car. This is a terrific kit. Great parts fit and well detailed. If you are planning on building an accurate LO 23 car, this kit is great raw material. You will have to make some changes and supply or fabricate some correct parts like the front seats, side glass straps, etc. I did not try to build an all out accurate car as I used the kit parts.
I used the red panel decals supplied with the kit and made my own "TFT" decals:
The only addition to the underside is the driveshaft loop:
I thought that I had lost the hood pins and was lucky to have someone send me a set. (Thanks dino]
Paint is Tamiya Silver Leaf with Testors Wet Look clear.
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Yes, thank you Dave. Makes sense.
The 4spd. Hemi cars came equipped with Chrysler manufactured bell housings. As stated above, they could be identified by the upraised "Steel" lettering cast into the housing. These bell housings looked very similar to the much more common cast aluminum versions. They were originally accepted by the NHRA for A/S and Super Stock classes. Later on, I forget the year, NHRA required the hydroformed, forged steel, Lakewood style housings. So, if you are building a "day one" version of your Dart, paint the kit supplied bell housing steel and call it correct!
WF
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Oh. I love this one so much! Very clean, super paint, and great photography too!
Street Roadsters are not too common in the drag race model world.
Here is one that I built a couple of years ago:
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I've been fortunate enough to be on the starting line many times in the early 70's. During those years, 1971, 1972 and 1973 I was one of the 3 announcers at Connecticut Dragway. Being the "rookie" of the 3, I never got to do the announcing while the Pros were racing...that was always done by the main guy. I was always relegated to the doorslammers catagories. But hey...I was 19 - 21 years old and I was the envy of all my friends because I I had a job at the drag strip and got to hobnob with all the pros! Many times I was sent to gather info for the announcing so I would talk to the Pros in the pits and bring back whatever little background tidbits I could for the main guy to use in his announcing. And it meant that while the fuel cars were running, sometimes I would go and stand in the little cabin we had on the starting line to provide a little shade for the starter. Something that always amazed me was how quickly the cars got smaller and smaller as they left the starting line. It was kind of like watching an old Road Runner and Wile E. Coyote cartoon. You know...where the Road Runner takes off like a shot and he gets smaller and smaller as he goes away to a pinpoint in a second. And from the stands it usually looks like those fuel cars were going pretty straight down the track. But in reality, they were all over the lane!
Ahhh...memories! That track is long gone now. It's used by Consumer Reports magazine as a test track for the articles they publish on cars. What a waste!
Being a track announcer does have its perks! Luckily, my track (E-Town) and my job are still there.
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Sitting in the stands and watching fuel cars is absolutely awesome but standing between two of them as they launch is almost impossible to describe and I've done it a few times. Most scary is to be on the starting line when two jet cars leave! Scared the heck out of me. I literally thought that I was gonna die! I love pretty much everything about drag racing, from brackets to the pros, but I do agree that actually doing it is most fun.
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That's very nice looking Fuel Altered! Great job with this, good detailing on the engine and perfect wheel and tire choice! But only one thing: I think, that engine doesn't look very good because, it's hole chromed. I mean there is only chromed parts. That looks unreal in a drag car. I f this would be a show car, then OK. But very good job all the way!
You didn't read Chris' intro, did you?
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Wow! John, if your models were classed as home runs (and they are), you would be Babe Ruth, Hank Aaron, and Mickey Mantle all rolled into one!
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Regarding the molded in panel lines. Yes, it was quite common to have panel lines on Funny Car bodies.
When a mold was made from an existing car body (rental car?), the panels lines were often left in the plug.
Door lines very noticeable on both the Maz car and the Lime Fire
For the longest time. I thought that the Lime Fire had a steel body because of the prominent panel lines, door handles, and stock trim pieces when in fact, it had a one piece glass body.
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Looking for some inspiration after my screwed up paint job on the Comet, broke out the 57 gasser I've been working on for years, so lets see some 55-7 gassers..
CCSS
Heres one that is a WIP.
Not a Gasser, but close.
WF
1968 Dodge Dart
in WIP: Drag Racing Models
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Where did you see a cross bolted Max Wedge engine? NASCAR use, maybe? I've never seen cross bolted 413 or 426 wedge engines in street cars or race cars. I know that World Products currently produces a cross bolted wedge block, but the Mopar factory????
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