Stroker Ace Posted November 16, 2016 Posted November 16, 2016 My family name is "Lutz" this was Bill Lutz in 1957 in a Olds 88 Convertible together with Lee Petty and Ralph Earnhardt and in my family genealogy tree i have a lot of Lutz´ those emigrated to US ... p.e. in Geneva, NB, Pekin, IL, San Francisco CA, Atlanta GE, Stone Mountain GE, Boise ID and other places .... Of course Bill Lutz was from Kentucky ... but he was the only driver in NASCAR with my family name ... In that way .... one of my next projects will be to built these scene: with these four cars in 1960 Daytona race: ´60 Starliner #44 Bill Lutz´59 Impala #67 David Pearson´60 Catalina #63 Whitey Gerken´59 Impala #76 Larry Frank Cars can be made from the AMT Starliner, Revell Impala and Trumpeter Bonneville (AMT Promo kit isnt available in Europe) kits and decals by aftermarket manufacturing ... But my primary question goes to the body colors of the cars? I found a picture of the Pearson Impala (same year other sponsor) = this car is red Anybody knews the colors of the other three cars? thanx 4your efforts
High octane Posted November 17, 2016 Posted November 17, 2016 That's a great project you're undertaking as I really like the stock cars of the late 50's and early 60's. The cookie cutter cars of today, you can have. Sorry I can't help you with colors as I don't build stock cars, NASCAR, etc.
1930fordpickup Posted November 17, 2016 Posted November 17, 2016 If you have to guess on the three remaining cars I would say white. Look the same as the Olds picture, as far as color goes.
JerseyRed Posted November 17, 2016 Posted November 17, 2016 This is going to be a really cool looking project. Can't wait to see it done. The three all look white, but it would seem there are guys around that would be able to give you exact details. Not just body color but colors of the numbers etc. It might take some extensive research to find them but I would bet they're out there. Just a matter of how correct you want to make the scene.
Stroker Ace Posted November 17, 2016 Author Posted November 17, 2016 in 1961 season Larry Frank drove a Impala i think in GM genuine color - shine as a dark silver metallic, may be Sateen Silver - a color still exist at the Chevrolet color chart in 1960 also, the numbers were in redi mean that #44 Starliner body color was polar (darker) white, with middle blue stripes on roof and rear and the numbers were orangethe #63 Catalina may be in alpin (lighter) white and numbers were yellow sponsor letters at #67 car in white, at the other 3 cars in black and the letters "Thor Chevrolet" on #76 car black with red shapes But i´ m not sure?
JerseyRed Posted November 18, 2016 Posted November 18, 2016 See, I would have guessed that the #76 is in an orange shade, it looks lighter than red to me. Much like the #44 car. The #63 does look yellow. It's really tough to determine the different shades of white from a single black and white photo. Especially with the sun light and shadows being what they are. You may also want to post this in the NASCAR forum where maybe somebody will have firsthand knowledge of the cars and drivers your looking for. I wish I could help more.
Stroker Ace Posted November 18, 2016 Author Posted November 18, 2016 Thanx Guys,i ve collected more than 8000 pictures inside a data sheet Lotus Approach, but it´s very hard to find color pictures of stock cars from darkside era in 1960´s ....I ve wrote same question inside Randy Ayers NASCAR Forum and also inside american board Stock Car Racers Reunion (David Pearson is a member of that board) ... but nobody knews the right colors until now. Whitey Gerken drove also at ARCA (former MARC) stock car series with white or blue chevys;David Pearson´s car also run with red body and white roof; with compliments
Vietnam Vet67 Posted November 19, 2016 Posted November 19, 2016 More on Bill Lutz........................http://www.chicagotribune.com/suburbs/franklin-park/news/ct-fhj-ohare-race-track-reunion-tl-1001-20150928-story.html
StevenGuthmiller Posted November 19, 2016 Posted November 19, 2016 (edited) I can't add any info on this subject as I know nothing about it, but you may want to do a little more research on the #63 Pontiac in the photo. Sure looks to be a '59 to me. The double tail fins give it away. If this is the case, replicating it will require either a resin replica, or an original annual. Steve I just found this photo of the Whitey Gerken car. Definitely a '59. Edited November 20, 2016 by StevenGuthmiller
Stroker Ace Posted November 22, 2016 Author Posted November 22, 2016 Dear Steven,Ya ... thats right! It´s a 59 Pontiac (also information at racing reference and ultimate racing history) at this picture the double fins seen clearly.Now i have a problem!´59 Ponitiacs model kits in scale 1/25 (1/24) are very rare ....Aurora kit 565-198 come a 59 Pontiac ConvertibleAMT kit 139 also a 59 Pontiac Bonneville 3 in 1 Hardtop or Convertibleboth too expensive and not payable rather not to find ....
talon63 Posted November 23, 2016 Posted November 23, 2016 https://youtu.be/pzDz2lu0Z6s not the best quality, but you might catch a glimpse of something useful. Colour film from the 1960 season. The 1960 Daytona race was historic for a few reasons. It was the first ever televised race (CBS). As the link shows, it had possibly the largest ever Nascar crash. It was also marked as the slowest Nascar race. I do wish you luck in finding a color reference for your build.
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