GeeDub Posted June 26, 2020 Posted June 26, 2020 I am hoping someone has this kit and can help me out. I am trying to find out the wheelbase in mm for this kit. I am considering this kit for a future project. I don't care for the altered wheelbase body, but the rest has great potential provided the wheelbase is at least 105 mm. Any assistance will be greatly appreciated.
Snake45 Posted June 26, 2020 Posted June 26, 2020 This is your lucky day, my friend. I just happen to be building that chassis and have it and a dial caliper on my bench even as we speak. Near as I measure it, the wheelbase is 100mm (@100 inches). It could be stretched easily, though of course that will throw off several other things.
GeeDub Posted June 26, 2020 Author Posted June 26, 2020 Thank you very much, Snake! Well, it seems I've got a decision to make. I need to measure some of the bodies I have been thinking about using and see if any are in that range that might fit cleanly or with very minimal stretching. Thanks again.
Snake45 Posted June 26, 2020 Posted June 26, 2020 23 minutes ago, GeeDub said: Thank you very much, Snake! Well, it seems I've got a decision to make. I need to measure some of the bodies I have been thinking about using and see if any are in that range that might fit cleanly or with very minimal stretching. Thanks again. C1 and C2 Corvettes might be in the ballpark. IIRC the C1s are 102 inches and the C2s are 98.
GeeDub Posted June 26, 2020 Author Posted June 26, 2020 2 minutes ago, Snake45 said: C1 and C2 Corvettes might be in the ballpark. IIRC the C1s are 102 inches and the C2s are 98. Don't have any of those, unfortunately. However, it may be an excuse to buy another kit!
Snake45 Posted June 27, 2020 Posted June 27, 2020 (edited) What bodies are you thinking of using? If I have any of them, I could see if they fit. BTW, here's the Cyclone frame. I had to add two more frame rails to it so I could use it in the Mustang. Edited June 27, 2020 by Snake45
Deuces ll Posted June 27, 2020 Posted June 27, 2020 (edited) I think the Eliminator II was or is a regular wheelbase flopper.... I could be very wrong on that one...?? Edited June 27, 2020 by Deuces ll
Snake45 Posted June 27, 2020 Posted June 27, 2020 6 hours ago, Deuces ll said: I think the Eliminator II was or is a regular wheelbase flopper.... I could be very wrong on that one...?? The AMT kit bears no relationship to the real Eliminator II except for a body that looks somewhat like a '67 Cyclone. It is in no way an accurate model. OP seems to know this, as he was asking about a wheelbase around 105 inches.
Deuces ll Posted June 27, 2020 Posted June 27, 2020 Well, I learned something new... Thanks Snake!... ?
GeeDub Posted June 27, 2020 Author Posted June 27, 2020 13 hours ago, Snake45 said: What bodies are you thinking of using? If I have any of them, I could see if they fit. Revell 41 Willys, Revell 67 Nickey Camaro and Revell 68 Mustang GT. They might actually be longer than 105 mm, as I used a ruler and eyeball method. I need to get a digital caliper. Harbor Freight, here I come.
Snake45 Posted June 27, 2020 Posted June 27, 2020 35 minutes ago, GeeDub said: Revell 41 Willys, Revell 67 Nickey Camaro and Revell 68 Mustang GT. They might actually be longer than 105 mm, as I used a ruler and eyeball method. I need to get a digital caliper. Harbor Freight, here I come. Wheelbase of the '41 Willys is 104 inches, so the Cyclone frame is too short. Your Mustang and Camaro are both 108 inches so that frame is WAY too short for those. Here's the project I'm working on at the moment: The Cyclone chassis under the '66 Mustang AWB body. I like the front suspension of the Cyclone chassis better. AMT altered the wheelbase of the Mustang body by something like 8 scale inches.
GeeDub Posted June 27, 2020 Author Posted June 27, 2020 Yep, I figured due to the awb of the Eliminator II, I was out of luck. Thanks for checking on those bodies. I was wishfully thinking. The next option is either to cut the wheel tub from the AMT 66 Nova or 67 Chevelle pro street chassis and merge with the chassis on the kits I want to convert to pro street or use a resin pro street deep wheel tub chassis I found on ebay. I'm going to give the resin pro street chassis a try on my next build - AMT 68 Camaro Z/28.
Snake45 Posted June 27, 2020 Posted June 27, 2020 15 minutes ago, GeeDub said: The next option is either to cut the wheel tub from the AMT 66 Nova or 67 Chevelle pro street chassis and merge with the chassis on the kits I want to convert to pro street or use a resin pro street deep wheel tub chassis I found on ebay. I'm going to give the resin pro street chassis a try on my next build - AMT 68 Camaro Z/28. If what you want to build is a modern-ish pro street, the Cyclone chassis is a poor choice. About all you could get out of it would be the rear wheel tubs. The rest of the frame is complete fiction, even for 1967. But that series is still fun to build and put on the shelf.
GeeDub Posted June 27, 2020 Author Posted June 27, 2020 Not too modern at all. I'm wanting to use the mid 80s to late 90s as the general time frame. Not too advanced, you know. Normally aspirated engines with or without nitrous. I'm collecting a bunch of big block engines to use on the various kits if they don't come with one. I've also collected enough high rise twin carb intake manifolds as well. I really like the look of those manifolds and twin 4 bbl Holley Dominator carbs protruding from the engine bay.
Mike 1017 Posted June 27, 2020 Posted June 27, 2020 I found this . http://www.compresins.com/site/751597/product/CR-4005
thatz4u Posted June 27, 2020 Posted June 27, 2020 7 hours ago, Snake45 said: The AMT kit bears no relationship to the real Eliminator II except for a body that looks somewhat like a '67 Cyclone. It is in no way an accurate model. OP seems to know this, as he was asking about a wheelbase around 105 inches. you can make a fairly accurate version with a stock AMT Cyclone kit & the frame from a Revell Hawaiian kit, there was an article in the recent ScaleAuto issue about kit bashing...
Snake45 Posted June 27, 2020 Posted June 27, 2020 (edited) 29 minutes ago, thatz4u said: you can make a fairly accurate version with a stock AMT Cyclone kit & the frame from a Revell Hawaiian kit, there was an article in the recent ScaleAuto issue about kit bashing... You can do even better with the stock Cyclone kit and the reissued Eliminator Cougar frame. In fact at one point the first Eliminator Cougar was wrecked in a highway accident, and Nicholson procured another body and put it on the frame of the Eliminator II Cyclone, which he still had on hand. I'm planning to build a model of that, i.e., that frame and then both the Cyclone and Cougar bodies for it. Edited June 27, 2020 by Snake45
gtx6970 Posted June 27, 2020 Posted June 27, 2020 1 hour ago, thatz4u said: you can make a fairly accurate version with a stock AMT Cyclone kit & the frame from a Revell Hawaiian kit, there was an article in the recent ScaleAuto issue about kit bashing... Im planning this build right now actually, Not sure if I will use the revell chassis or maybe a current Polar lights chassis
Snake45 Posted June 27, 2020 Posted June 27, 2020 Come to think of it, the Cyclone body in the AMT AWB kit (the eventual fate of the original annual body) is more accurate than the one in the "new" kit, except of course for the altered rear wheel openings, which wouldn't be hard to retro-correct. The only problem is the grille--the AWB kit's is missing the center piece, which was separate in the original kit, but all molded as one in the "new" one.
Mark Posted June 27, 2020 Posted June 27, 2020 After fixing the rear wheel openings, the AWB body is WAY better than the newer one. The Ertl body looks like the car got a bad Bondo job after being sideswiped on both sides. The grille from the Ertl Cyclone has the potential to fit the older body. The headlight spacing seems to match up well, but some material needs to be removed to get it to fit. Not sure if the newer stock hood fits the old body, but it should, with probably adding or removing a bit of material at the sides and back.
thatz4u Posted June 28, 2020 Posted June 28, 2020 23 hours ago, gtx6970 said: Im planning this build right now actually, Not sure if I will use the revell chassis or maybe a current Polar lights chassis Bill, I'm working on a similar FC using the Revell chassis & an AMT 66 Fairlane body...not used to building these so I will hope for the best..
Snake45 Posted June 28, 2020 Posted June 28, 2020 On 6/27/2020 at 5:39 PM, gtx6970 said: Im planning this build right now actually, Not sure if I will use the revell chassis or maybe a current Polar lights chassis Are you going to do a Workbench thread on it as you work? If so, would you consider a "dual build" with me? It might be fun to watch two different modelers tackle the same subject at the same time in different ways.
Deuces ll Posted June 28, 2020 Posted June 28, 2020 2 hours ago, thatz4u said: Bill, I'm working on a similar FC using the Revell chassis & an AMT 66 Fairlane body...not used to building these so I will hope for the best.. I would love to see this build!!!!.... ??
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