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The ford GT compared to the Miura. The Miura is so sexy. The build was the hardest of my 1/8 builds. But worth it. Running out of room for these big kits. Finished the Super Snake GT500, the Red Bull F1 car, Shelby cobra 427, Ford GT, now the Miura. The 1/8 kits I have in the shed are the Mazda cosmo, VW bug convertible, Shelby GT 500, and the pocher Ferrari testarossa. I was just notified yesterday that Agora wants me to build their new Mercedes gull wing kit. I think it’s the eagle moss kit. Eagle moss is no more. Best part of the Mercedes build is that I get to paint her any way I want. Oh boy , here we go again. 

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Agora.

Are their models only available to buy piecemeal?      I would much prefer to buy a full kit.

After Eaglemoss going belly up leaving subscribers with part built models and a huge dent in their wallets, I am a bit reticent to buy a model kit in installments.

If I were to buy that way, I would certainly use a credit card as the company I think is legally buying the product on your behalf, so if anything untoward happens you should be able to get your money back. Using a debit card to pay is like paying in cash so if anything happens it is a total loss to the buyer.

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15 minutes ago, Bugatti Fan said:

Agora.

Are their models only available to buy piecemeal?      I would much prefer to buy a full kit.

After Eaglemoss going belly up leaving subscribers with part built models and a huge dent in their wallets, I am a bit reticent to buy a model kit in installments.

If I were to buy that way, I would certainly use a credit card as the company I think is legally buying the product on your behalf, so if anything untoward happens you should be able to get your money back. Using a debit card to pay is like paying in cash so if anything happens it is a total loss to the buyer.

I definitely understand. It will take awhile but all of these will eventually be full kits. Some are already complete kits. I think the jag, cobra 427 and the super snake are full kits. And they are expensive. Not for everyone. If you really like the subject, and can afford it, should go for at least 1. These are the center stage in my model room. People always go for the big models. Starts great conversation. 

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I would like to say something about agora, as far as the big kits go, the company has their act together. Liam sincerely cares about the company. And my friend Mark is their new USA liaison. 

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I understand that an Aston Martin DB5 from one of the Daniel Craig era Bond movies is on the cards for imminent release.

It will be interesting to see if they market it as a full kit as well as a part series. I would be very interested in that one, but bet it will be a part series only kit to buy.

De Agostini did an Aston DB5 a few years back. Not sure if it was the standard car or of the Connery Bond Car.

Now a big Bugatti 35B , Bugatti Type 59 , Duesenberg SJ Phaeton or a Bentley Blower would really pique my interest.

Bruce. Going by your last post it looks like you have a close association with Agora it they are asking you to build models for them so perhaps you could suggest the above to them for future kits. I would think that American modellers would particularly like a big Duesenberg as the original Pocher company never made one.

You mentioned modellers  sorting problems as they go along as opposed to assemblers who moan if things do not go together properly. I agree with that sentiment to a certain extent, but at the same time can see where someone else who is not an experienced modeller might be coming from having spent a shed load of money not expecting quality issues.

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On 6/15/2023 at 11:26 AM, Bugatti Fan said:

I understand that an Aston Martin DB5 from one of the Daniel Craig era Bond movies is on the cards for imminent release.

It will be interesting to see if they market it as a full kit as well as a part series. I would be very interested in that one, but bet it will be a part series only kit to buy.

De Agostini did an Aston DB5 a few years back. Not sure if it was the standard car or of the Connery Bond Car.

Now a big Bugatti 35B , Bugatti Type 59 , Duesenberg SJ Phaeton or a Bentley Blower would really pique my interest.

Bruce. Going by your last post it looks like you have a close association with Agora it they are asking you to build models for them so perhaps you could suggest the above to them for future kits. I would think that American modellers would particularly like a big Duesenberg as the original Pocher company never made one.

You mentioned modellers  sorting problems as they go along as opposed to assemblers who moan if things do not go together properly. I agree with that sentiment to a certain extent, but at the same time can see where someone else who is not an experienced modeller might be coming from having spent a shed load of money not expecting quality issues.

Yes sir I agree. For the price something’s should be worked out. We are modelers but they are business men. Most of the time the two get in the way. There is a balance of making a profit and what modelers want. I see  a modelers side, but the making of these are very difficult. There are so many arguments on this. Big car manufacturers are the same way. What designers want and what accounting says , a settlement has to be made somewhere. It’s incredible that with so many people that the project gets off the ground. 

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Experienced modellers tend to look at any kit as basic material to build a very accurate miniature.

I agree that manufacturers of kits and real cars have to make design compromises along the way. But full size car makers absolutely have to ensure that design compromises do not lead to fit up problems on the production line when things get screwed of bolted together.

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Yes things need to fit on the real ones. Being in the auto body business since 1969 I have seen a lot of changes. Cars actually fit pretty good with so many parts today. In 1969 a ford truck bumper was 4 bolts and nuts, with a few washers, now it’s a lot more, with electrics, sensors, etc. fit is essential. But I get upset that a person is paying so much for what we call , Lego bricks and Tupperware. I guess it’s the same with the expensive models. When it fits it’s great but when it doesn’t, holly cow. Model Factory Hiro is cad designed but try to put one of those together without modifying a part for fit. I’ve built many and boy want to talk about fit. Although when finished it’s a thing of beauty. And they are expensive. Not many can afford these kits and it’s an exclusive club. Just like Ferraris and other super cars the price is high to get in. 

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Cannot argue about what you say about MFH kits Bruce.

But like Ferraris and Bugattis they are limited run items with their target market being very highly experienced enthusiast car modellers.

The ostensibly screw together market of Agora, DeAgostini and the late Eaglemoss is a bit different. From where I see it the idea behind them with pre painted bodies and so forth is to appeal generally to auto enthusiasts looking for a nice big representation to build with minimum tools or fuss, and end up with a very acceptable big model. Naturally in the hands of an experienced modeller the level of detailing can be improved no end however.

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Further to.my last post I think that  Agora and DeAgostini are missing a trick here..

There would.be a market for their wire wheels and tyres I think sold as separate kits in their own right.

I should have mentioned Bruce what a nice job you did on the  Miura. It is one of the nicest cars that Lamborghini ever made.

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