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I saw this Rolls-Royce while surfing the net. It is a 1925 Phantom, rebodied in 1934, by the Belgian coachbuilder Johnckheere. There were comments posted that a Bugatti Type 57 also had round doors, but I could not find photos. Can anyone show me that Bugatti (or any other coachbuilt car with round doors. IIRC there was a Delage or Delahaye, but I could be wrong)

I did not know of the Rolls until last night when I saw a 1/43 resin kit on ebay. It's really cool, but $143 plus shipping from Munich is a bit much for me.

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There's a diecast version on eBay right now for $120, and free shipping:

http://cgi.ebay.com/1%2F43-ROLLS-ROYCE-192...321172001r28923

I'd spend the extra $$$ and get a better looking model by getting the Vroom kit. I try not to buy anything made in China, and yes, that includes new Revell (and most other) kits.

Do you know of the Bugatti, or any other coachbuilt classic with round doors?

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are you talking about the $3,500,000 bugatti?

here is a bugatti type 57sc atlantic coupe. its not round doors but its close! <_<

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i am still lookinf for other bugatti's types!

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The Bugatti Atlantic coupe is the most beautiful car (all three of them) ever made!

I was privileged to see and shoot Ralph Lauren's one at the Colorado Grand one year.

There was also a "fake" one there as well.

I will see if I can find all the pics.

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are you talking about the $3,500,000 bugatti?

I really don't know. I think there is at least one other coachbuilt car out there with round doors. A couple of guys mentioned it in discussion of the Rolls, but I can't find it.

here is a bugatti type 57sc atlantic coupe. its not round doors but its close! B)

I think there is one other car with really round doors, not just somewhat rounded.

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Lee not to buy models including Revell is going to make is hard to stay in the hobby as most things will eventually end up being made there, it was like that many years ago in Australia we wouldn't buy anything made in Japan because of WW2 we all ended up buying Japanese anyway as will U eventually end up buying chinese made model kits. The Rolls is very interesting and I thought I knew all the Rollers that they made.

Dingo B)

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B);):D:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol: yeah here is one its the 2005 nissan pivo concept car! its got round doors from the factory!

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I gotta tell you that I saw that Round door at the Petersen. Fascinating story. The thing was at the scrap yard! To see it in person is something. The car is huge!!!

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I think it is pretty safe to say that I would be the Bugatti expert on this board. I have over 35 books on Bugatti, endless photos, magazine articles, saw the Schlumpf Collection on my honeymoon,etc. and can not say that I have seen a round door Bugatti, much less a T57. There certainly were some unusual bodies mounted on Bugatti chassis but I can not recall anything like the Jonkheere. The Atlantics have the central fin and the Atalantes have a very rounded top half of the door. There could be something out there. Bugatti built over 9000 cars with an estimated 2000 surviving, and there are bound to be a few I haven't seen.

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I can't find any other round door car.

But I did find this... the car before it was restored:

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This is from a large feature I believe on the restoration of this vehicle. One of the more upmarket old car mags like Octain, Motor Sport or Classic Car and Thougherbred.

Cant remember which one but I seen it.

J

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I think it is pretty safe to say that I would be the Bugatti expert on this board. I have over 35 books on Bugatti, endless photos, magazine articles, saw the Schlumpf Collection on my honeymoon,etc. and can not say that I have seen a round door Bugatti, much less a T57. There certainly were some unusual bodies mounted on Bugatti chassis but I can not recall anything like the Jonkheere. The Atlantics have the central fin and the Atalantes have a very rounded top half of the door. There could be something out there. Bugatti built over 9000 cars with an estimated 2000 surviving, and there are bound to be a few I haven't seen.

Do you know of any other coachbuilt cars with round doors? I know I have seen one somewhere.

Thanks.

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That Rolls is the only car I know of with round doors. It is quite unique that way. This car has been around in different colors so perhaps that is throwing you off. I think it was shown in an off-white color previously. The present look in black is one I don't like. Sometimes people who have enough money to play with these expensive toys don't have a lot of knowledge and taste when they (over)restore them. If it was one of 50 cars ,go ahead and change the color, but when they are actually a unique car like that they should be restored to original.

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...Sometimes people who have enough money to play with these expensive toys don't have a lot of knowledge and taste when they (over)restore them. If it was one of 50 cars ,go ahead and change the color, but when they are actually a unique car like that they should be restored to original.

Like the creamsicle orange Hispano-Suiza?

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That is fugly! ;) Maybe the owner was heir to the Popsicle fortune! Remember when the auction shysters painted the Ethel Mars Duesey limo a bright red? That was very sad. It has been repainted since. I was annoyed when Ralph Lauren had the old Pope T57SC Atlantic restored in black. It had been French blue for most of it's life. It acquired chrome wires in the US at one point. But at least he restored it to the way it looked when it was new. Same story on the Williamson Atlantic. It had been orange for decades but he had it restored to what it looked like new. I have gotten to the point that chrome wires and wide whites might as well be donks to me! There is a Murphy bodied Bentley at the Blackhawk Museum that used to have chrome wires, WWWs, and a bright silver paintjob! Someone rescued it and it looks quite nice now. The black fenders toned it down a lot. I still would like to see painted wires on it. But it is very much improved!

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