MarkJ Posted May 19 Author Posted May 19 5 hours ago, Volzfan59 said: Mark, I agree with you about the roll cages in that kit and also the Lennie Pond era Chevelle kits. They are entirely to thick and my pet peeve, a cage that doesn’t go to the roof! Thanks, Steve. I tried to fix it, but it is beyond fixable. Thanks for stopping by with your thoughts on the build. 3 hours ago, slusher said: Mark, so you are going to build a roll cage? Yes, Carl. I was trying to keep this build as oob as I could, but the cage is just too ridiculous to keep. Thanks for asking about the build. 2 hours ago, Kevinjr26 said: looking good the window deflectors are awesome! Thanks, Kevin. That's why I decided to do my own cage. I was having trouble incorporating the kit cage with the quarter glass fairings. Thanks for your props on the fairings.
MarkJ Posted May 21 Author Posted May 21 (edited) Got started on the cage. I begin off the midpoint of the model right at the door opening at the rear of the door and build on to that, eventually ending up with what I have in the final photo below. Then I go back and add all the other bars. I'm adding a tube over the main size bar to represent the padding. I split it down the middle spread it, and it slips over the main bar wherever I need to have padding. I'm not gluing the cage to the tub. It's just a tight fit at 4 spots around the cage and will remove it to paint it black and also paint the tub red. I will glue it at final assembly. These bars fit tight to the roof and A pillars in the front like the real car has it. There is still enough adjustment space to make room for the windshield......I hope. Thin masking tape is my friend during this beginning phase of the cage build Edited May 21 by MarkJ 2
MarkJ Posted May 22 Author Posted May 22 9 hours ago, slusher said: Very nice progress, Mark what size rod are you using? Carl it is 1/8-inch tube and 5/32 tube for the padding. Thanks for the comment.
MarkJ Posted May 22 Author Posted May 22 Carl, I told you wrong. The skinny tubing is 3/32 not 1/8 of an inch. the padding is 5/32, that was correct. I put a small piece of wire in the tubing and just bend it cold with my fingers. The wire inside the tubing keeps it from breaking as you bend it. You can do a 45 degree angle if you want to.
MarkJ Posted May 23 Author Posted May 23 Got to the point I don't need my friend Mr. tape to help me anymore on the cage. Just a few more bars, padding and a head support to prevent whiplash and I should be done. 2
MarkJ Posted May 24 Author Posted May 24 Some more work done on cage. All that's left is the head restraint pad and the triple horizontal bars in the sides of the cage at the doors. 1
MarkJ Posted May 25 Author Posted May 25 With no nascar race to watch today because of the greed of nascar to take away the next 5 races in hopes that most Nascar fans will try to stream with televisions that aren't set up for steaming. I should have time to work on this build when I would normally be watching a Nascar race. Thanks Nascar. 1
bobss396 Posted May 25 Posted May 25 (edited) Have you tried the Plastic Performance cages? They are a good start. Ron Coon has a couple of printed cages that save a load of work. Pictured is the Ron Coon one, also carried by WFC Motorsports. They come in 2 widths. I added the Petty bar. Edited May 25 by bobss396 1
MarkJ Posted May 25 Author Posted May 25 Thanks, Bob but that cage looks nothing like the cage I need. I'm really not looking for a way to save time. If I did I would have just used the kit cage. 1
MarkJ Posted Monday at 02:11 PM Author Posted Monday at 02:11 PM 11 hours ago, Rattlecan Dan said: She's coming along mighty fine. Going to be great. Thanks, Donato. Always appreciate your positive comments on the builds.
MarkJ Posted Monday at 02:29 PM Author Posted Monday at 02:29 PM Got the head restraint installed. Now on to the triple bars in the doors. 1
Kevinjr26 Posted Tuesday at 07:08 PM Posted Tuesday at 07:08 PM modelling your own stuff is what makes this great!
MarkJ Posted Tuesday at 08:19 PM Author Posted Tuesday at 08:19 PM 1 hour ago, Kevinjr26 said: modelling your own stuff is what makes this great! Thanks, Kevin . I really appreciate you stopping by for a comment. 1
MarkJ Posted Thursday at 01:09 PM Author Posted Thursday at 01:09 PM Got the cage mostly finished and you can see by the building technique I used I can now remove it from the tub for easy painting with an airbrush. Had to add some crush panels to the rear part of the tub to get the tub more centered and get rid of the huge gap between the body and the tub at the front of the rear fenders which are part of the tub on this model. Really looked odd to be able to see the rear tires from the inside of the car but that's what you get if you build this model oob. I still have some more styrene sheet to add to complete the crush panels. I have to redo the fairing around the quarter glass openings as well. The cage now sits much closer to the window openings and a-pillars then the oob cage would have. 3
MarkJ Posted Thursday at 10:47 PM Author Posted Thursday at 10:47 PM Mocked up the tub in the body with the chassis connected as well. I can still get the cage a little tighter at the left roof rail. Looks pretty good on the right roof rail. I need to finish the crush panels around the rear fenders and also fix the fairing around the quarter glasses. There are a few spots on the triple bars in the left door that need to be filled in with styrene pieces. I'm starting to see some painting in my future once I get these little details ironed out.
TransAmMike Posted Thursday at 10:58 PM Posted Thursday at 10:58 PM Looking good Mark, keep it rolling on 😀
bobss396 Posted Friday at 11:53 AM Posted Friday at 11:53 AM I have a good stash of NASCAR cages and other roll cage parts that I have accumulated over time. It really saves time and effort. 1
MarkJ Posted Friday at 04:16 PM Author Posted Friday at 04:16 PM 17 hours ago, TransAmMike said: Looking good Mark, keep it rolling on 😀 Thanks, Mike. I always appreciate your takes on my builds. 4 hours ago, bobss396 said: I have a good stash of NASCAR cages and other roll cage parts that I have accumulated over time. It really saves time and effort. Thats good to know, Bob. It's always nice to have a large stash on hand. Every time I finish a kit I go through all the sprue and cut off anything that looks promising for a future build. I have a large plastic case with a bunch of little compartments and try to keep all the parts that are like carbs or manifolds or anything like that in the same compartment together for easy finding later if I need something that I don't feel like scratching. 3
slusher Posted Friday at 10:44 PM Posted Friday at 10:44 PM Nice roll cage Mark! What’s the petty bar?
MarkJ Posted 20 hours ago Author Posted 20 hours ago 14 hours ago, slusher said: Nice roll cage Mark! What’s the petty bar? Thanks, Carl. The bar extending from the left rear frame rail to the right roof rail cage bar at the front corner of the top of the cage. I believe that is what they called the Petty bar but don't quote me on it. I just copied the Allison cage from a ref picture and included it for that reason only. The horrific crash that Richard had at Darlington in 1970 or 71 brought that bar into being. It exposed a weak part in the cage they were using at that time.
MarkJ Posted 13 hours ago Author Posted 13 hours ago Got the crush panels at the rear fenders mostly done and the 1/4 glass fairings as well. Also filled in the voids in the pads on the triple horizontal bars on the inside of the left door cage. Just need to do a little putty and sanding to finish up and start painting.
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