Wasnt there talk about 72 road runner ? they were gonna retooled? what happen with the ideal ?

[robo37]

Wasnt there talk about  72 road runner ? they were gonna retooled? what happen with the  ideal ?

[Mark]

People here were talking about it, but none of them make the decisions.

[gtx6970]

I was told many years ago by someone who was in the know. The tooling for the MPC 1971 Roadrunner was heavily damaged.

And was zero chance this kit was coming  back unless they start from scratch.

If I were a betting man...the '72 variant is in same boat 

 

 

I have both kits in the stash so I have no skin in the game if it does.....or doesn't .

[stavanzer]

Look Here, Rob.

This is the thread you mentioned.

 

[sak]

I built this one recently , and I can say that it is crude and has a few inacuracies. It can look good, but it would be nice if they fix a few of the issues if they reproduce it.

[1972coronet]

The 1972 Road Runner was an updated 1971 Road Runner & GTX (the latter being , IIRC, a mid-year issue), then ad seq. through the 1974 GTX.

I seem to remember that the '71  body was modified for the Richard Petty edition from c.1972. 

It was later - 1987 - "returned" to "stock" and reissued with then-contemporary custom rims ( Weld Wheels ? ) , which took the place of the originals' Cragar S/S rims .

Apparently, the tooling - at least the body - was damaged in c.1995 , on the heels of an announced   reissue of the c.1972 Petty car.

Be really nice if Round2 was to work their magic in a similar manner as the '68 Coronets and '71 Demon 340 - 100% new tooling. 

Edited 2 hours ago by 1972coronet
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[CapSat 6]

Man…I am really conflicted whenever this comes up. 

I owned two ‘71 Plymouth Satellites in my lifetime. I really love those cars. 
 
The MPC kit is a mixed bag. The originals, and the 1980’s repop have their issues. The grille/ front bumper looks sort of flat and bent down. It doesn’t look quite right. The Revell kit’s front bumper looks much more detailed, but looks a little tall, and it’s hurt by having no separate grille, so that one misses the mark, too. 

The MPC kit has no lower grille detail. It does have a license plate there, but there is no detail behind or around it. They kind of faked that area for the promos and kits. 

The a pillars are always weak in the MPC kits, and the front window opening is prone to distortion. More often than not, these kits are found with windshield areas that are at least slightly bent. The hood never really fit right on any of the MPC ‘71 Plymouths kits. 

The interior is sort of shallow in those kits. The chassis and engine are basic, and the front inner fenders are the wrong shape. The side mirrors are pretty wrong in that kit. 

IF Round 2 is going to bring this one back, they would be very wise to stay away from mostly copying the original MPC kit. This sort of worked with the ‘68 Coronet and ‘71 Demon kits. I think the results would be worse copying this one. 

Round 2 could take the approach of doing a simplified kit like the Coronet and Demon, and that still might be cost effective. If they want to copy the old MPC kit, then they should tweak the design of the front end (grille, front bumper and lower grille), work on the hood fit, strengthen or otherwise beef up the front window opening, do better Rallye wheels, and work on the appearance of the inner front fenders and firewall. They could do a platform interior, enabling variants like GTX and ‘72 Road Runner. 

I don’t love the Revell kit, but it does stick the landing a little better than the old MPC kit does. I was REALLY hoping for a newly-tooled ‘72 rear bumper for the recent Dom Toretto special.

I was SOOOO hoping that AMT’s ‘71 Charger kit was going to eventually lead to new ‘71 Plymouths. Since Revell’s very ok kit has been available almost constantly for the past 20 or so years, I’m not sure this will be at the top of Round 2’s list, but who ever knows? Round 2 did hit us with a ‘68 GTO, while Revell still has had theirs in their catalog (albeit as a ‘69). 

Dont get me wrong- I don’t like having to trash either of these kits, but I don’t want to see the same mistakes get made with any new ones. Round 2 does seem to have the eye for detail they need when they do this kind of thing, so I do have faith if they ever take up this cause. I’m just mentioning it now to go on record, and put it in the right ears, hopefully. 

 

[CapSat 6]

1 hour ago, 1972coronet said:

It was later - 1987 - "returned" to "stock" and reissued with then-contemporary custom rims ( Weld Wheels ? ) , which took the place of the originals' Cragar S/S rims .

Gotti wheels? Nice ones. The Cragars in those kits (as far as I know: same ones MPC used in a lot of their ‘70’s kits) were some of the best. The Gottis were very nice, but more than 1/2 of the time, the chrome in those ‘80’s ‘71 Road Runners were total garbage. Sometimes it would be faking off in the shrink wrap. 

Edited 1 hour ago by CapSat 6
Dang autocorrect…