MarkJ Posted Thursday at 01:35 PM Posted Thursday at 01:35 PM I decided to try to build a model with no kit and only using styrene and household products. First one to guess what it is gets nothing but the satisfaction of figuring it out first. I first searched for a kit and could find nothing, and I don't want to purchase a 3d printer or even learn how to use it. I will use 2d schematics and hope that they are correct and ref photos. I will make it 1/12 scale or very close to it, but it doesn't really matter. I chose this scale because making stuff is always easier if its bigger and the finished model should be about 13.5 inches long so it will fit in a 15-inch-long clear plastic display case. I will try to build the tires and wheels first and if I cannot for some reason I will give up on this idea and go to my stash and pick out a kit to build. Without the tires and wheels the body, engine, and other things won't be necessary. Wip pictures will be your clues to what it is and no "well I think it might be this type of car". The guesses have to include year model and full name of the vehicle. Now that you have got off the floor scoffing at my idea check out the first clues below.
sidcharles Posted Thursday at 02:51 PM Posted Thursday at 02:51 PM yeah . . . . i don't think those are made no more . . . maybe eBay would have some. for a princely sum, of course.
stitchdup Posted Thursday at 03:24 PM Posted Thursday at 03:24 PM a 2012 sellotape dispenser chopper?
MarkJ Posted Thursday at 09:21 PM Author Posted Thursday at 09:21 PM 5 hours ago, stitchdup said: a 2012 sellotape dispenser chopper? Close but no cigar, Les and Sid I haven't got a clue what you are talking about. The model I'm trying to make I've only seen as a partial build diecast that you have to finish yourself but its thousands of dollars to purchase one so not going down that path. I probably just gave it away with that comment. Oh well back to work.
Pierre Rivard Posted Friday at 01:56 PM Posted Friday at 01:56 PM Has wire wheels. We're down to just a few hundred possibilities... 1
MarkJ Posted Friday at 02:20 PM Author Posted Friday at 02:20 PM 14 hours ago, LDO said: ?? Very close Lee but keep on trying.
MarkJ Posted Friday at 02:23 PM Author Posted Friday at 02:23 PM 23 minutes ago, Pierre Rivard said: Has wire wheels. We're down to just a few hundred possibilities... Thanks, Pierre for putting in your thoughts and being right about the wheels, but like you said, there are hundreds of possibilities, but you have narrowed it down a lot.
MarkJ Posted Friday at 02:27 PM Author Posted Friday at 02:27 PM 19 minutes ago, steveracer said: It is a round tire model. Thanks, Steve, for saying that the tires will be round. I'm trying very hard to get them as round as I can and making 4 of them look the same will really be a challenge. I'm hoping the first wheel will be passable so I can continue on .
Mark W Posted Friday at 06:26 PM Posted Friday at 06:26 PM 1928 Porter I love this kind of stuff, I hope the wheels work out because you really need to continue this project.
MarkJ Posted Friday at 09:49 PM Author Posted Friday at 09:49 PM 3 hours ago, Mark W said: 1928 Porter I love this kind of stuff, I hope the wheels work out because you really need to continue this project. Mark, I need to google that to see what it is, but you are about 30 years off. Thanks for contributing to this quiz and wishing that I can continue. So far, I'm still sort of on track. 1
Mark W Posted Saturday at 02:39 AM Posted Saturday at 02:39 AM 4 hours ago, MarkJ said: Mark, I need to google that to see what it is, but you are about 30 years off. Thanks for contributing to this quiz and wishing that I can continue. So far, I'm still sort of on track. 30 years eh? But in what direction? Given the wire wheels.....this requires some thought!
MarkJ Posted Saturday at 02:51 PM Author Posted Saturday at 02:51 PM 12 hours ago, Mark W said: 30 years eh? But in what direction? Given the wire wheels.....this requires some thought! Mark, 30 years in the future. It's weird how wire wheels have stayed basically the same for a long time. 1
MarkJ Posted Saturday at 10:16 PM Author Posted Saturday at 10:16 PM Almost ready to install the wires for the wire wheels. When you look at a ref picture of a wire wheel and try to make sense out of it, it makes your head hurt. At least my head does. You have to install them in layers starting at the back of the wheel and moving to the front. Hopefully I can end up with 4 wheels that look somewhat the same. Usually in the past when I've had to make my own wheels the last one looks better than the first one. I had to make wheels for an IROC Camaro and that's what happened on that build. The trouble with my ref pictures is that no 4 wheels look the same and ref pictures of the actual car showing the wheels that it had were in motion. So, I will just end up with whatever I get and hope that they look passable. You've heard of rivet counting. Well, this will be wire counting instead and you're not really sure how many wires you should have in the wheel. 1
kensar Posted 21 hours ago Posted 21 hours ago Spoke wheels have sets of 4 spokes - two pulling to the front, two to the back, and two pulling left and two pulling right. This balances all the forces in the wheel. I think many sports cars of the late 1950s with wire wheels have 72 spokes total - just my belief. Also, one set of the four sets usually runs from the back of the rim to the front of the hub, and from the front of the rim to the back of the hub. Just try sorting all that out. 🫤
Pierre Rivard Posted 19 hours ago Posted 19 hours ago (edited) Yes, typically 1950's wheels had 72 spokes. British cars usually had a 2 rows. 24 spokes from front of hub to back inner rim and 48 going the inner side of the hub to the forward part of the rim. Italian cars had a 24/24/24 setup... I think... Good luck making these. Comforting knowing there is someone crazier than me out there...😃 Edited 19 hours ago by Pierre Rivard
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