Railfreak78 Posted December 9, 2009 Posted December 9, 2009 (edited) This car is a junker that was turned into a satellite and is under glass now. Edited December 24, 2009 by Railfreak78
george 53 Posted December 9, 2009 Posted December 9, 2009 WoW, Brian, considering what you started with it came out GREAT! Did you actually reconstruct the A-Pillar on the driver side out of BONDO???? WoW, THAT was a trick! if you'da filed off the hood scoops it REALLY would looked like a stock Satellite. It came out GREAT Daddy-O, VERY nice build!
Railfreak78 Posted December 9, 2009 Author Posted December 9, 2009 Hey there THANK you for the compliments. I'm new here and just joined a model club and found this great site. I had the post out of bondo then broke it when it was almost perfect. Its now made of 2 thin strips of styrene with bondo over it. I know the hood gives it away but I am in a time crunch. I still have to do the grill and round turn signals also. I'm just glad the roof came out ok because it was leaned over really bad out of the box ( Thrift store bonus lol )
dwc43 Posted December 9, 2009 Posted December 9, 2009 You'd have to change the tail lights and rear bumper too. Sat. tail lights go straight across where the Road Runner in that pic has them sitting at an angle. Also the back up lights for the Road Runner are in the bumper and on the Sat. they start in the center of the tail light and end near the deck lid. I've owned both in the past so it was easy to catch.
Railfreak78 Posted December 9, 2009 Author Posted December 9, 2009 Thanks for letting me know. In some research I found the differences on side markers but i never found any pictures of the back. Later on i'll file down the hood. I hope the off yellow looks like something that would be on one of these. Its a mild custom but not so passable I guess lol
dwc43 Posted December 9, 2009 Posted December 9, 2009 Welcome anytime. The only thing I can tell you about the marker lights is that the '68 has very small round ones and the '69 has the larger rectangle light with the reflector lens in it too. Color should be fine. A friend of mine used to have a Sport Sat. and had it repainted, but it was too bright a yellow. Still looked nice though.
dwc43 Posted December 9, 2009 Posted December 9, 2009 Here's a rear 3/4 view of a '68 Satellite. I hope that helps. You can see the chrome in the middle of the deck lid and that goes straight over to the back up light that is in the center of the tail light. And there's no lights in the bumper. That may be a Sport Satellite due to the stripe and chrome. Most do not have the chrome panel on the deck lid.
Railfreak78 Posted December 9, 2009 Author Posted December 9, 2009 Wow! Thanks for the info and man I have my work cut out for me lol. I can make the back end but not on time for my meet... dang. I think by the time I'm done I'll have a show stopper. Thanks for the welcome here all
george 53 Posted December 9, 2009 Posted December 9, 2009 DWC, That's NOT a 69 Satillite like Brians building. What you have there is a 68 GTX. Satellites did NOT have the stripe down the side, nor the GTX written on the lower fender or the scooped hood like that one has . Brian, I think the 69 Satellites had the same rear taillights as a GTX, not like the ones on the Road Runner. They had DIFFERENT taillights, and a different grille. The 69 GTX and 69 Satellites shared alot of the same body trim, but there WERE very slight differences between them. Just google that rascal to see what I'm talkin about.
dwc43 Posted December 9, 2009 Posted December 9, 2009 (edited) DWC, That's NOT a 69 Satillite like Brians building. What you have there is a 68 GTX. Satellites did NOT have the stripe down the side, nor the GTX written on the lower fender or the scooped hood like that one has . Brian, I think the 69 Satellites had the same rear taillights as a GTX, not like the ones on the Road Runner. They had DIFFERENT taillights, and a different grille. The 69 GTX and 69 Satellites shared alot of the same body trim, but there WERE very slight differences between them. Just google that rascal to see what I'm talkin about. That sir is a '68 Satellite like I stated in my post. And most likely a Sport. The Sport is one of the easier ones to convert to a look a like Road Runner or GTX. If you notice it has round marker lights only used in '68. DOT said they were too small and the '69 and up cars use a larger rectangle marker with a reflector on it. And the Sport Satellite does come with the chrome panel on the rear deck lid just like the one in the pic. The GTX is just a Road Runner with a chrome trim package and emblems. IT uses the same angled tail light lens that the Road Runner uses. The Satellite is the only one with the flat lens like the on in my pic uses. I've owned several Road Runners and Sats in this model year and the info I posted is correct. Edited December 9, 2009 by dwc43
dwc43 Posted December 9, 2009 Posted December 9, 2009 Wow! Thanks for the info and man I have my work cut out for me lol. I can make the back end but not on time for my meet... dang. I think by the time I'm done I'll have a show stopper. Thanks for the welcome here all Again, welcome anytime. Are you going to make a Sport out of it or just use the plain deck lid with the flush lights? Either way, you'll have to delete the lights on the Road Runner bumper and rechrome or Al Clad it. If you do a Sport, you can get the GTX grill and just mod the center part of the grill. They are almost the same in appearance. I'll see if I can find a pic of one for you.
dwc43 Posted December 9, 2009 Posted December 9, 2009 68 Satellite 69 Satellite You can see the Satellite stamped in the lower right deck lid chrome trim. 69 Sport Satellite. Notice the grill is almost like a GTX except it says SPORT instead of having the GTX emblem in the center of it. '69 Sport convertible. Notice the angled Road Runner type tail lights and the chrome trim on the deck. It would have different trim on the deck if it was hard top.
dwc43 Posted December 9, 2009 Posted December 9, 2009 The first pic is a closer look at the Sport Satellite emblem and grill. The other one is small to see, but it's the GTX emblem.
george 53 Posted December 9, 2009 Posted December 9, 2009 Then WHY does it have GTX written on the lower quarter panel,just behind the door? The other sport satellites you posted don't have that trim on them. Just sayin.......
george 53 Posted December 9, 2009 Posted December 9, 2009 (edited) I was confused, and you seemed to be SO adimant that it's a Sport Satellite, that I Googled it. Lo and behold, they had that EXACT picture of the BLUE car you posted in your first reply, and it says," The Sport Satelittes more muscular big brother, the GTX, started life with a 375 horsepower 440" Just google it for yourself. If they say it's a GTX(and it 's the SAME EXACT picture)and it has GTX emblems on the lower quarter panel, behind the door, them 'Im sorry, but THAT'S a GTX!!! I rest my case. Brian , all this aside, your Satellite is comeing out VERY nice. Edited December 9, 2009 by george 53
dwc43 Posted December 9, 2009 Posted December 9, 2009 Then WHY does it have GTX written on the lower quarter panel,just behind the door? The other sport satellites you posted don't have that trim on them. Just sayin....... It's a clone as I stated. The Sport is the easiest car to use to make a Road Runner or GTX clone.
george 53 Posted December 9, 2009 Posted December 9, 2009 In post 12, the car in gold car is a 68, right below it there is a Burgandy convertable, which you claim is a 69. It ISN'T. It is ALSO a 68 . Please go to Google,type in "69 Sport Satellite" when it comes up,go to the 3rd line titled "How Stuff Works" on the first page, at the top, you'll see a WHITE 68 Sport Satellite convertable, on the Second page you'll see the EXACT car you pictured, and IT says it's a 68 GTX, on the 3rd page you'll see another picture of the front of that same car, which again states it's a 68. Why is this so hard to understand? If YOU can't tell the difference between a 68 and a 69 from the REAR, HOW can you tell it's a clone? I was 15 when these cars came out, I LIVED in those days, I used to OOgle those cars in MY DREAMS! I've owned BOTH a 69 Charger R/T AND a 69 440 Super Bee. My Best man at my wedding owned a 69 RoadRunner. I KNOW what I'm talking about. The Google is just so YOU know. Have a nice day!
Ron Hamilton Posted December 9, 2009 Posted December 9, 2009 Here's a rear 3/4 view of a '68 Satellite. I hope that helps. You can see the chrome in the middle of the deck lid and that goes straight over to the back up light that is in the center of the tail light. And there's no lights in the bumper. That may be a Sport Satellite due to the stripe and chrome. Most do not have the chrome panel on the deck lid. Isn't that a '68 GTX?
dwc43 Posted December 9, 2009 Posted December 9, 2009 In post 12, the car in gold car is a 68, right below it there is a Burgandy convertable, which you claim is a 69. It ISN'T. It is ALSO a 68 . Please go to Google,type in "69 Sport Satellite" when it comes up,go to the 3rd line titled "How Stuff Works" on the first page, at the top, you'll see a WHITE 68 Sport Satellite convertable, on the Second page you'll see the EXACT car you pictured, and IT says it's a 68 GTX, on the 3rd page you'll see another picture of the front of that same car, which again states it's a 68. Why is this so hard to understand? If YOU can't tell the difference between a 68 and a 69 from the REAR, HOW can you tell it's a clone? I was 15 when these cars came out, I LIVED in those days, I used to OOgle those cars in MY DREAMS! I've owned BOTH a 69 Charger R/T AND a 69 440 Super Bee. My Best man at my wedding owned a 69 RoadRunner. I KNOW what I'm talking about. The Google is just so YOU know. Have a nice day! If you can't read, I can't help you. The chrome panel in that pic says SATELLITE on the right hand side just past where the PLYMOUTH letters end.
dwc43 Posted December 9, 2009 Posted December 9, 2009 Isn't that a '68 GTX? No, it's a clone. Look at the Satellite brake lights. If they had used a Sport Satellite to make there clone it would have been harder to catch. Only Sports, Road Runners and GTX's have the angled tail lights. The plain Satellite has straight lens like that clone has. An even easier Road Runner to clone is the '71 through '74. Only way to tell a Road Runner from a Cloned Satellite is to check the VIN and Fender tags. I have books just for that purpose too. So far to date, the only Road Runners and Satellites I have owned have been '68, '69, '70, and some '76 models. The '76 through 80 is easy to clone too, so you have to have the book to check the numbers on them too.
Jordan White Posted December 9, 2009 Posted December 9, 2009 (edited) Okay, I did a little research and it looks like the 1968 models have the flat panel taillights (Belvedere only has the end lights, Satellite/Sport Satellite and GTX have full width lights). The 1969 models have the angled lights. 1968 has the round side markers, and the 1969 has the rectangular side markers. Edited December 9, 2009 by YJIslander
george 53 Posted December 10, 2009 Posted December 10, 2009 Jordan, that's NOT the point. DWC is so confused about this he can't see straight. There's NO way he's right, he's just too stuborn to admit he might've made a mistake. (which he has) but it's ok, cause HE ISN'T gonna convince those of us who grew up with these cars what we already know. He's just plain WRONG, and if hE wants to believe it's a clone or whatever, that's OK too. Those of us who were there KNOW better!
Jordan White Posted December 10, 2009 Posted December 10, 2009 (edited) Jordan, that's NOT the point. DWC is so confused about this he can't see straight. There's NO way he's right, he's just too stuborn to admit he might've made a mistake. (which he has) but it's ok, cause HE ISN'T gonna convince those of us who grew up with these cars what we already know. He's just plain WRONG, and if hE wants to believe it's a clone or whatever, that's OK too. Those of us who were there KNOW better! Oh I noticed all that, I just figured I should chime in with my research! Edited December 10, 2009 by YJIslander
Jordan White Posted December 10, 2009 Posted December 10, 2009 Thank you! Now Brian, you may continue with your project!
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