Another FUTURE question...

[AceofBass]

Alright, so I used Future for decals for the first time today. What I did was dip the decals in water, slide them off the paper, then dip them in Future, then applied them. My next project is a 1997 Terry Labonte Kellogg's NASCAR. There are some larger and odd-shaped decals and I would not be able to dip just the decals into the Future. My question is would dipping the decal into the Future while still ON the paper give me the same result??

Thank you ahead of time!

[charlzrocks]

Probably not! You should always release the decal from the backing paper in water before application, otherwise the Future could dry quickly (the stuff gets tacky pretty easily) and it might fuse to the backing paper before you can get it onto the model! You can try it, but I wouldn't recommend it!

[AceofBass]

What if I brush the Future onto the car where I am putting the decal then put the decal over top of it?

[weasel]

apply the decals normally, after there're dry, THEN brush/spray the Future to act as a sealer for the decals...

[935k3]

What if I brush the Future onto the car where I am putting the decal then put the decal over top of it?

Yes but it sets up pretty quick and you do may not have enough time to move it around. Dipping it in Future would also make it brittle.

[Smart-Resins]

I would not recomend that at all! A couple quick tips. I do not know how you apply your future or with what? I use my airbrush and spray it on, straight shot not thinned, at about 30lbs from 6-8 inches away almost full bore and I keep my gun moving! Now thata all certainly personal preference. Now, some of the more nit and gritty. I use decal set to set the decals. let it sit 24 hours. If you have cleared the model then done the decals, the decal set will fog up the future, but in all of my experiences thus far, the next coat of future you use, it will clear up that fog. Now yes, indeed sometimes that old decal will try to leave a white film around the edges. What you can do if you are perfect at setting decals in a hurry without haveing to move any of them, spray the body then set the decals. This is only what I have heard. To me, that sounds like a mission impossible feature, so I refuse to try that! LOL. Thats why I stick to what I do! LOL. I hope you find your method. I am sure there are several more here that can chime in with thier tips and tricks! I will also push in here, yes you can polish future! Many say no you can not. But that depends on what you call polishing? I always no matter how hard I try, get at least one dust particle in the best of coats. So once it has cured 24 hours, I will sand with micro mesh 6,000 grit, then 8,000 grit and finish with the 12,000 grit. When done, I will breathe on the model and polish it using a soft cotton sheet. Do this and you will get that terrific sheen! I have not found a paiste yet that wont mess with the future, so my suggestion, dont even try unless someone has a true fire one they have found? Jody

[DanielG]

I was brushing on future and had it lift the decal, drove me crazy getting it unwrinkled and back where it belonged! Have not used it again over decals.

[MikeMc]

apply the decals normally, after there're dry, THEN brush/spray the Future to act as a sealer for the decals...

I would not recomend that at all! A couple quick tips. I do not know how you apply your future or with what? I use my airbrush and spray it on, straight shot not thinned, at about 30lbs from 6-8 inches away almost full bore and I keep my gun moving! Now thata all certainly personal preference. Now, some of the more nit and gritty. I use decal set to set the decals. let it sit 24 hours. If you have cleared the model then done the decals, the decal set will fog up the future, but in all of my experiences thus far, the next coat of future you use, it will clear up that fog. Now yes, indeed sometimes that old decal will try to leave a white film around the edges. What you can do if you are perfect at setting decals in a hurry without haveing to move any of them, spray the body then set the decals. This is only what I have heard. To me, that sounds like a mission impossible feature, so I refuse to try that! LOL. Thats why I stick to what I do! LOL. I hope you find your method. I am sure there are several more here that can chime in with thier tips and tricks! I will also push in here, yes you can polish future! Many say no you can not. But that depends on what you call polishing? I always no matter how hard I try, get at least one dust particle in the best of coats. So once it has cured 24 hours, I will sand with micro mesh 6,000 grit, then 8,000 grit and finish with the 12,000 grit. When done, I will breathe on the model and polish it using a soft cotton sheet. Do this and you will get that terrific sheen! I have not found a paiste yet that wont mess with the future, so my suggestion, dont even try unless someone has a true fire one they have found? Jody

As the guys have said..you want decals to dry 24 hr before future is applied...then a wide soft brush and a slow pass watching out for bubbles , repeat as needed to get the shine you want.

Jody is correct you can polish future.....but only dry sanding...sorta like polishing windshields....slow and easy!!

you have been here??? http://www.swannysmodels.com/TheCompleteFuture.html

Edited March 7, 2010 by MikeMc

[Bassbison]

As the guys have said..you want decals to dry 24 hr before future is applied...then a wide soft brush and a slow pass watching out for bubbles , repeat as needed to get the shine you want.

Jody is correct you can polish future.....but only dry sanding...sorta like polishing windshields....slow and easy!!

you have been here??? http://www.swannysmodels.com/TheCompleteFuture.html

[Bassbison]

Greetings, how about doing like the big guys the 1/1 guys? Dipping the whole body into future after decaling? It has worked for me of couse before assembly. Clear class window are done this way. Try this and let me know how you do. By the way you must cover the item soon after being dipped. You know dust and stuff in the air.

Buil-On

[935k3]

Two tips on Future. I use disposable make up pads like this picture below to apply it. ALso Zymol brand wax deepens and enhances the gloss. All other waxes including the Treatment start to remove the Future when rubbing.

[AlanNZ]

you have been here??? http://www.swannysmodels.com/TheCompleteFuture.html

I like the idea with the gold tint for the a/c canopies. I'm guessing I could add Tamiya Smoke tint to Klear to get the same effect for my windscreens.

[Railfreak78]

I just saw this thread and I had some questions too. Can you just dip the body in a tub of like I do my dunk tank that removes paint? Also it's floor wax, I used to be a janitor that did floors. Can't you use like a mini bonnet on a dremel and buff it like a propane buffer does to thr real floor and shine it up with no extra car wax added??? Maybe I should try this on a junker but I'm curious about the dunk tank idea before I waste a bottle. Thanks in advance for any thoughts...

[dodgerblue62]

GREAT TOPIC . I NEVER KNEW THAT THERE WERE SO MANY DIFERANT USES FOR FUTURE ....

[Railfreak78]

So I tried the bonnet idea on a junker and the result was Fail! Just a warning. Now the pad may have been to tough and the Dremel speed was on high. I did not try low yet. Just a .. for your information.. kind of heads up. It just made small burn marks or took it off.