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i want a good brush that will last a long time and get alot of use i am looking at http://www.paascheairbrush.com/cgi-bin/store/detail.cgi?r=60 but not sure :D plz help.

I just ordered that airbrush from amazon for $64( I didnt come with anything but the airbrush)

a double action airbrush gives you the most control when painting I would recomend a double action airbrush.

I think Paasche is one of the best airbrushes out there but that just me.

I would also look at master airbrush g series, badger airbushes, and Iwata.

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As mentioned, get a double-action airbrush. Slightly more expensive than a single-action, but much better flexibility and control.

Stick with a well-known name brand and you can't go wrong... they're all good. Most people will tend to recommend the brand that THEY bought, but in reality all the big manufacturers make excellent airbrushes. Paasche, Iwata, Badger, Grex are all good brands.

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I'm a huge fan of the badger 350 I have several different airbrushed from a Badger 200, Badger double action 175T, Paashe H series single action, and a paashe VL double action, and the 350 is the one I use the most. It's nearly indestructable, easy to clean, and once you have it adjusted the way you want it, it will lay down a consistant smooth finish.

If you were going to buy one for doing murals or T-shirts I'd say go for the double action, but for spraying paint on models a single action reduces the variables and makes your paint job's quality more consistant.

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As these guys have mentioned, a double-action from a "name" manufacturer should work fine.

I've had my Paasche VL for 20 years, and I've never needed another. :D

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Paasche and Badger are good brushes, however, an Iwata is a cut above.

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ive had a badger 150 dual action before and that was a great brush

then i got out of the hobby for a while and when i got back in i bought a paasche single action and to be honoust, im not missing the dual action

plus, (and this is what i love about it most) the single action i have has basically a "paint head" on it and that is the only part that needs cleaning

(just have a look at this picture)

https://www.airbrushbodyart.co.uk/shop/images/h-airbrush-only.jpg

you only take out the small part that comes off off the ball and that contains the needle

and it was about half the price of the dual action

thats just my 2 cents :mellow:

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What is the real advantage of a double action? Mind you, this question comes from somebody who is incapable of operating a single action.

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I use a Badger Crescendo 175T. Bought it in about 95 or so, the only thing I have replaced in that time is the tip. Been a great airbrush. Got it at Michaels. Got the kit which has 3 needles and 3 tips, plus 1 small and 1 large color jar, and a metal touchup jar. Used a 40% off coupon, so it cost me 50 bucks!

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Check out Chicago Airbrush for prices. They were the cheapest when I bought a Paasche H series single action (Donn Yost's choice, I believe), and had free shipping.

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What is the real advantage of a double action? Mind you, this question comes from somebody who is incapable of operating a single action.

A single-action airbrush works like a spray can: you press the trigger and it sprays. You have no control over the ratio of air to paint, it just sprays (although in a much finer mist than a spray can).

A double-action airbrush works differently... if you press the trigger you get airflow, and the further back you pull the trigger the more paint flow you get. So you have control over the air to paint ratio.

That's not necessarily a big deal if all you're going to do is spray paint model bodies a solid color, but if you ever want to get into more advanced things like fades and candies and graphics and flames and that sort of thing, you'll prefer a double-action airbrush for the greater control it gives you. I think it's worth the slight price difference to get a double-action airbrush right from the start.

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A single-action airbrush works like a spray can: you press the trigger and it sprays. You have no control over the ratio of air to paint, it just sprays (although in a much finer mist than a spray can).

A double-action airbrush works differently... if you press the trigger you get airflow, and the further back you pull the trigger the more paint flow you get. So you have control over the air to paint ratio.

That's not necessarily a big deal if all you're going to do is spray paint model bodies a solid color, but if you ever want to get into more advanced things like fades and candies and graphics and flames and that sort of thing, you'll prefer a double-action airbrush for the greater control it gives you. I think it's worth the slight price difference to get a double-action airbrush right from the start.

That's not quite accurate Harry, My single action airbrushes allows me to fully adjust the air / paint ratio, the difference is a double action allows you to do it on the fly. A single action airbrush is actually the only airbrush I will use to spray Metalics and candies as, it is very important to use a consistant ratio all through the paint process to avoid the paint looking blotchy. Keep in mind that 1:1 auto painting equipment works like a single action airbrush in that you adjust the paint / air ratio and the spray pattern before you paint and it cannot be changed on the fly.

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It really doesn't matter what you get if you follow some simple rules.

1. Buy a name brand:Badger, Iwata, Tamiya, Paache or Grex. All the others are knockoffs of their designs and the quality control can be very spotty. This is a precision instrument and getting the best will never disappoint you.

2. Get a double action. They can be set to use like a single action when you start and when you have learned how to use the double action it will be helpful in doing fades. It is very difficult to make a single action do what a double action does with ease.

3. Get one with a Teflon seal. If you are going to spray lacquers you will need it or the brush will not last long.

4. Get one that feels good in your hand. Very important. Trigger positions and weight are a big factor in how the brush feels and how easy it is for you to use.

5. Check disassembly. The easier it is to disassemble, the easier it is to clean. This is a precision instrument and cleaning is critical. I suggest one with a removable paint cup. It lets you get down inside of the brush with a cotton swab to clean it.

6. If a brush comes with extra tips and needles that is good for different paints but not a real requirement. If you are trying to paint bodies, a wide tip is best. If you want detail than a fine tip would be the choice.

7. Go to an convention if you can. The various distributors will be there and you can get a chance to use it with paint.

8. Good luck and don't let the sweet taste of a bargain be soured by a poor quality piece. A bargain airbrush is only a bargain if it works well

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What is the real advantage of a double action? Mind you, this question comes from somebody who is incapable of operating a single action.

One advantage is that all double action airbrushes mix the air and paint internally, this produces a better atomization of the paint. This is critical for paints like Alclad and especially clear colors. I have 3 Paasche's the H,VL and VLST-PRO and a Badger Crescendo and none of them spray as nice as my Iawata Eclipse. The Eclipse also sprays Alclad primer better than any of the other. Another advantage of finer spraying airbrushes is they use allot less paint Th Paasche H is like using a Holly double pumper 4 barrel compared to the Iawata.

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That's not quite accurate Harry, My single action airbrushes allows me to fully adjust the air / paint ratio, the difference is a double action allows you to do it on the fly.

Yes, you're right. I should have been more specific... a single-action airbrush will spray at a set ratio, and some models (but not all) let you dial in a setting before you start to spray, but a double-action brush will let you change the ratio as you spray; that comes in handy when you're doing fades or flames or other delicate work. Like I said, a double-action airbrush isn't necessary for general painting, but it comes in handy for specialized techniques. And since a good airbrush is a fairly sizeable investment, I say you might as well get a double-action model right off the bat, rather than get a single-action model and then later on wish you would have sprung for the double-action type.

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Another advantage with a dual action, even if doing a single solid color is you can mist paint into hard to reach areas to get good even coverage. Engine compartments, grill rececces, etc, can quickly become flooded with paint, and the dual action allows you to fill these areas slowly and evenly.

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The IWATA ECLIPSE fits the bill perfectly. You won't ever need another airbrush.

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