streetisneat Posted August 26, 2011 Posted August 26, 2011 Hey guys. What aftermarket parts would you like to see made for Pro Mods and Pro Street Cars?
camarobuilder Posted August 26, 2011 Posted August 26, 2011 A GOOD kit with realistic rod ends,rod material, and pivots for twin carburetor linkage... Not the photoetched stuff. Frank
Mooneyzs Posted August 26, 2011 Posted August 26, 2011 (edited) A GOOD kit with realistic rod ends,rod material, and pivo ts for twin carburetor linkage... Not the photoetched stuff. Frank Frank.... RB Motion makes turned aluminum rod ends as well and he sells smaller tubing too. I have a website at home that has small medical grade tubing. Its stuff that goes smaller than what K&S Metals sells. I can post later if you'd like. Edited August 26, 2011 by Mooneyzs
Nitrozilla Posted August 26, 2011 Posted August 26, 2011 Frank.... RB Motion makes turned aluminum rod ends as well and he sells smaller tubing too. I have a website at home that has small medical grade tubing. Its stuff that goes smaller than what K&S Metals sells. I can post later if you'd like. I think I speak for Frank and I when I say, "Yes, thank you. Link please."
Mooneyzs Posted August 26, 2011 Posted August 26, 2011 I think I speak for Frank and I when I say, "Yes, thank you. Link please." not a problem, will post it later for everyone.
brett Posted August 26, 2011 Posted August 26, 2011 (edited) more modern Affordable wheels front and rear Edited August 26, 2011 by brett
Dragracer Posted August 26, 2011 Posted August 26, 2011 How about parts kits, containing things like braided hose,wiring(spark plug,detail wiring etc.),bolts,valve stems. It would be like ordering a pack/bag of hoses,bolts whatever you need without having to figure out what sizes you will need, like "I'm building a nitrous car" & getting the correct size hoses or bolts or whatever.
Mooneyzs Posted August 26, 2011 Posted August 26, 2011 Richard... Best braided line in the business that I have seen is from Charlie at Pro Tech. Not trying to be a downer about having a bagged system wth everything you need, i acually think its a great idea. Just not sure if you would find any better braid in the business is all. His is made correct to the real stuff.
Dragracer Posted August 26, 2011 Posted August 26, 2011 In my stash here, I have some of Detail Masters braided line, but after seeing a how-to using both types in, I believe the other magazine, & seeing it used here, I'm planning on getting some of Charlies for my builds. Maybe get Charlie to make the "bagged system"? hhhhhmmmmm.
Rob Z Posted August 27, 2011 Posted August 27, 2011 I'd like to see a more affordable Pro Mod engine, the RG engines are nice but a bit out of range for me and I am sure others. The Pro Sportsman kits offer a decent engine but, I would like to see some MOPAR offerings as well, along with something other than the Lenco tranny's...
Mooneyzs Posted August 27, 2011 Posted August 27, 2011 As Promised here is the link for the different size tubing..... The Main Page: http://www.smallparts.com/ Direct to the Tubing: http://www.smallparts.com/s/3021479011
High octane Posted August 27, 2011 Posted August 27, 2011 I have used some of Pro-Tech's stuff and it is great. I would like to see a kit of a '65 Plymouth Satallite that can be built stock with steelies & dog dish hub caps, built as super stock with the 426 engine, slicks, etc., and also as a match racer with and injector engine, roll bar, moon tank, tach, etc. ALL in ONE kit.
streetisneat Posted August 27, 2011 Author Posted August 27, 2011 What about wheel tubs? Does anybody have problems with that.
eviltwincustoms Posted August 29, 2011 Posted August 29, 2011 (edited) I'd like to see a more affordable Pro Mod engine, the RG engines are nice but a bit out of range for me and I am sure others. The Pro Sportsman kits offer a decent engine but, I would like to see some MOPAR offerings as well, along with something other than the Lenco tranny's... Top End Miniatures already has the Tranny's for you in a Air Silinoid and I think they are working on some linkage ones. They are suppose to be coming out with some nice Pro Mod motor kits in resin, but dont think they are going to be any more affordable then the RG ones that you mention. I figure that there is a point you have to determine do you want realism or do you want something that fits your wallet? Once this is answered with a more affordable happy medium you will get what you want. As for Wheel Tubs, myself don't see this as something that is needed because each car is different when you add or change up the chassis. The easiest route is an empty "Coke" can because it retains the round shape. Cut to fit and mount a styrene back and you are good to go! Edited August 29, 2011 by eviltwincustoms
Dragracer Posted August 29, 2011 Posted August 29, 2011 Top End Miniatures already has the Tranny's for you in a Air Silinoid and I think they are working on some linkage ones. They are suppose to be coming out with some nice Pro Mod motor kits in resin, but dont think they are going to be any more affordable then the RG ones that you mention. I figure that there is a point you have to determine do you want realism or do you want something that fits your wallet? Once this is answered with a more affordable happy medium you will get what you want. As for Wheel Tubs, myself don't see this as something that is needed because each car is different when you add or change up the chassis. The easiest route is an empty "Coke" can because it retains the round shape. Cut to fit and mount a styrene back and you are good to go! TEM's trannies are great (I have 3 or 4), Chris makes them in 3 & 4 speeds & the detail is fantastic, they come the air solonoids, reverse lockout & the shift buttons, you only have to make a shaft/pole to mount the shifters onto, then paint & put together. Chris due to a recurring health problem is running a little behind right now on some parts, also I know a few years ago he was planning on making some highly detailed (like 140 piece) Pro-Mod engines, but I don't know if those are still in his plans (hope so,but not sure). As for his bodies, they also are great, Wayne Stevens makes the bodies then Chris does the molds & the resin.
1320wayne Posted August 29, 2011 Posted August 29, 2011 (edited) Everyone has some great ideas or "wants" that would like to see available in aftermarket. I think as far bodies go, between what I do for Chris at TEM and what Flashpoint has released, the market is pretty well covered, especially when you consider the volume that are available and what will be available in months to come. Of course there are all of the talented builders out there creating their own one-off bodies as well. Hood scoops as well are pretty well covered. It's the underneath the body panels that need attention. I know that working with and being friends with Chris for a number of years now, his ideas of what he would like to produce and the time it takes to actually make it happen are worlds apart. At one time his grand plan was to have a customer be able to order a completely aftermarket pro mod, from stem to stern. Not really feasible so you take it one step at a time. I know that he has plenty of irons in the fire as far as detail parts go, but as has already been mentioned, his health as of late has not been the greatest. He is a stubborn old coot and I'm sure he will overcome and get back on track real soon. Some items that are in the works are real slicks (already cast a few sets but is working out all the bugs), multiple wheel sets that will be cast in resin so they will be more affordable than machined wheels but will be up to the builder to make them as realistic as possible, more engine accessories like different blower choices, transmission options ( I can't remember all of the different ones at this time but there were at least three that I recall) and small engine detail parts. I also know that he is still working on at least two new rear end selections and a complete nitrous kit that will include bottles, solenoids, brackets, gauges and line, along with whatever else the kit needs. Also, so this doesn't sound like a TEM promotional post, I can also say that just today I received a couple of new photo etch sets from Dirtmodeler.com that include a front suspension set with brackets for the front strut mounts as well as motor plates and a complete 4-link rear suspension kit with enough brackets to do two complete suspensions. You just have to come up with your own struts and rod ends as well as rear end center section. Both of these kits were right around $5 or so. They were both designed and created by Clay Kemp so you know they are accurate. Charlie at Protech definately makes some of the best detail parts and I believe that he has, bar none, the best resin 4 barrell carbs. available. There is an area that we could use more detailed parts. I agree with Dave regarding the single 4 intakes and not enough viable options in kit form to complete that task. I think if we give it time, and bug enough folks, then what is needed for more detailed and accurate builds will continue to grow. Edited August 29, 2011 by 1320wayne
futurattraction Posted August 30, 2011 Posted August 30, 2011 Dave, I'm working on a B&M Quarterstick-style PE shift lever with separate housing/cover and resin interior. The lever can be positioned anywhere within the range of the housing slot. I'm also working on some other drag pieces I'll try to share pics of soon. Scott
DirtModeler Posted September 4, 2011 Posted September 4, 2011 I'd like to do some more items in the drag racing market, without stepping on anyone's toes. My specialty is photoetching, so i'd like to try to stick to that. I try not to venture too far into the resin stuff, unless it's something that supports my PE work (like resin wheel rims for the PE centers). What strikes me off the bat as some things i'd like to do would be some wheel options, and definitely the weld 'scalloped' drag beadlock. I'm certain i could nail them. Anyway, i like this topic and hope it continues. I'd like to read more drag racing wants, as well as which manufacturers make which products so i'll know what products to focus on, and which i should steer clear of. My development cycle is only about 2 months from concept to first part in the hands of a customer (very rapid), so the more information and requests i can get, the better.
DirtModeler Posted September 4, 2011 Posted September 4, 2011 As Promised here is the link for the different size tubing..... The Main Page: http://www.smallparts.com/ Direct to the Tubing: http://www.smallparts.com/s/3021479011 Try www.specialshapes.com too. I use them all the time, and IIRC they have lower prices. Special Shapes is actually K&N Brass, they are just selling brass parts that aren't in the 'metal centers' you see in hobby shops. Only thing i don't like about special shapes is you have to call to order.. they don't have online ordering. But when you buy brass in the hundreds of feet at a time.. it's not too bad to call them every year or two
Mooneyzs Posted September 4, 2011 Posted September 4, 2011 I think this is a great thread with seeing input from everyone with what we all would like to see. I personally would like to see more 1/16th scale aftermarket item... With it being photo-etch, turned aluminum or resin.
Mooneyzs Posted September 4, 2011 Posted September 4, 2011 Try www.specialshapes.com too. I use them all the time, and IIRC they have lower prices. Special Shapes is actually K&N Brass, they are just selling brass parts that aren't in the 'metal centers' you see in hobby shops. Only thing i don't like about special shapes is you have to call to order.. they don't have online ordering. But when you buy brass in the hundreds of feet at a time.. it's not too bad to call them every year or two some how I didnt see the see this browsing with my phone. Will have to check them out.
camarobuilder Posted September 5, 2011 Posted September 5, 2011 How about more drag car kits? Modern Pro Stocks? Pro Mofifieds? Pro Street? Maybe a tube chassis Pro Street Camaro kit?
ratnasty Posted September 5, 2011 Posted September 5, 2011 I would like and I know some of the other guys would like to see 1/16th photo etch stuff for the drag cars like this . thanks Chuck
Mike Kucaba Posted September 5, 2011 Posted September 5, 2011 I'd like to see plan drawings of frames in various scales so I could attempt a scratch built brass one.
streetisneat Posted September 5, 2011 Author Posted September 5, 2011 Hey Michael-Dirt Modeler, I just placed my 1st order with you and very excited about getting it. I downloaded your plans for the dirt car and would like to ask you could you do the same for the Pro Mods. You have some really neat items.
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