sjordan2 Posted February 10, 2012 Posted February 10, 2012 One nice thing about going rusty & crusty is that you can save a lot of shelf space.
Guest Johnny Posted February 10, 2012 Posted February 10, 2012 . I recently saw a old rusty truck with what appeared to be the perfect dry lake bed pattern in the fully rusted hood. I have no idea how it could have formed, but it looked cool. Should have taken a picture. The pattern started in the paint and even though all the paint has weathered away the pattern remains because of the earlier rust arount the broken patches of paint is thicker.
Dr. Cranky Posted February 10, 2012 Posted February 10, 2012 Chuck, I hope you will make the rat on the hood proud!
Guest Dr. Odyssey Posted February 10, 2012 Posted February 10, 2012 <p> The pattern started in the paint and even though all the paint has weathered away the pattern remains because of the earlier rust arount the broken patches of paint is thicker. Good to know. It had what looked like rivers flowing throughout from the peak out to all the edges.  Since you know how it happened do you know what kind of paint it had on it to cause the pattern?  Maybe make it easier to replicate in scale.
Guest Dr. Odyssey Posted February 10, 2012 Posted February 10, 2012 (edited) <p>OK, I can smell that Mustang.  That is an odor you can't unsmell.Shake & Bake baby, Shake AND Bake! Edited February 10, 2012 by Dr. Odyssey
Chuck Most Posted February 10, 2012 Posted February 10, 2012 Ah, the Crispy Stang. First, and so far the only convincing, burned model I've seen. Love the details on that one, right down to the bubbles in the formerly molten front wheels.
Chuck Most Posted February 10, 2012 Posted February 10, 2012 Of all the models I've built with a weathered finish, I think this one is my favorite- I was going for a 'barn find plopped on a later model chassis' look for this '26 Mack. Just a worn but still mostly well preserved truck, still wearing its original work clothes.
Dr. Cranky Posted February 10, 2012 Posted February 10, 2012 Mike W., I've always love that model since the first time I saw it. I think you are on to something there that the military model builders are crazy about too. And that is burned out vehicles. Of course, cars burn for completely different reasons than military vehicles, but you definitely got the right feel and look to it. Thanks for sharing it.
Chuck Most Posted February 10, 2012 Posted February 10, 2012 I really like it when a Model can do more than just sit on a table. To me, a model should tell a story, especially a weathered one, of how it arrived to be in that condition. Forgive me if what I'm about to say comes off as a bit 'dorky', but here goes... When I see a car, be it a clapped-out old junker I pass on the freeway, or some old long-lost hulk that's been sitting so long in one spot it looks like it has always been there, It always gets my imagination reeling. How did the front fender get dinged in like that? Why is the driver's side rear door a different color than the other panels on the car? What kind of person owned it? And in the case of the last example, how did it end up where it is today? Weathering a model immediately gives the vehicle a history, a backstory. You can make up a back story for it, or let the viewer draw their own conclusions. It becomes really interesting when the model is set in a diorama setting (though that's a whole 'nother can of worms). If you built, say, a Monogram '50 Ford F-1 in an overgrown, wooded area, its hood slightly ajar and some scattered engine parts laying on the fender, for example- it will get the viewer of the scene thinking "What happened? How did that truck end up there?" You might even picture the frustrated old farmer who owned it, throwing up his arms and cursing, giving up on whatever 'field repair' he was attempting, and just leaving there to sit. To me, that's the kind of stuff that really makes a weathered model interesting. The fact they're loads of fun to build is just icing on the cake.
Dr. Cranky Posted February 10, 2012 Posted February 10, 2012 Oh yeah, The Reverend of RUST is in the House, Mr. Chuck Most! Amen to that, Rev. Most!
Art Anderson Posted February 10, 2012 Posted February 10, 2012 Harry is right, starting with Ford with the Model A for 1930, stainless steel began replacing chrome, particularly for body trim (although from 1930 onward through the 1940's, Ford radiator shells then grille bars were stainless steel). With the beginnings of body trim spears, Ford used stainless steel exclusively from 1938 on. GM also began using stainless steel by the late 1930's, and certainly in the early 1950's, when Chromium was declared a "strategic metal" for defense purposes, about the only chrome plating was on diecast parts and bumpers. Anodized aluminum started creeping in about 1957, first with grille mesh, then side spears on the likes of Impala's in '58. Of course, neither metal rusts, in fact, stainless really doesn't even dull that much over time and exposure to the elements. Oh, and when chrome spears are removed, on 50's/60's cars, yes there are clips, but remove a clip, and you have a hole in the sheet metal. Art
Harry P. Posted February 11, 2012 Posted February 11, 2012 Mike, nicely done "crispy" Mustang... but I doubt the fan, the headlight buckets, the radiator cap, the entire induction system, etc. would have completely disappeared in the flames...
Chuck Most Posted February 11, 2012 Posted February 11, 2012 The intake would be gone for sure- the intake on the 3-valve Mod motors is plastic. At least the upper plenum, anyway.
jerseyjunker1 Posted February 11, 2012 Posted February 11, 2012 <p>Good to know. It had what looked like rivers flowing throughout from the peak out to all the edges. Since you know how it happened do you know what kind of paint it had on it to cause the pattern? Maybe make it easier to replicate in scale. i have first sprayed on enamel paint and when it dries spray laquer over it it will give you that effect
Harry P. Posted February 11, 2012 Posted February 11, 2012 Actually, harry, I was very surprised at what was plastic and what wasn't. All of the Intake is plastic. the fan isn't, but everything around it is. The entire headlight buckets, the entire front fascia, the bumper cover, the entire cowl area, & a bunch of other underhood components are plastic too. Makes me wonder if plastic is heavier than steel in some instances, contributing to the "heft" of new cars . one of things I didn't replicate was the "puddle" of solidified plastic, aluminum, and other bits of hardware that would have melted, dripped down to the ground and then re-solidified. You obviously did your research!
Harry P. Posted February 11, 2012 Posted February 11, 2012 Don't you own one of these? I mean, less toasty in appearance? Yeah, mine's not quite as "worn" as this one!
Guest Dr. Odyssey Posted February 11, 2012 Posted February 11, 2012 i have first sprayed on enamel paint and when it dries spray laquer over it it will give you that effectIt wasn't a krinkle finish, I get that from the technique you describe. Works good for those 70s&80s valve covers.It was more like fissures. Thanks though!</p></p>
Dr. Cranky Posted February 11, 2012 Posted February 11, 2012 My recommendation to anyone interested in weathering is to start your own collection of real life subject. Carry your camera in the glove compartment and every time you run across a yard jewel, stop and shoot it. Trust me those pictures come in handy later not only for reference, but if you end up writing and publishing articles.
Guest Dr. Odyssey Posted February 12, 2012 Posted February 12, 2012 David, do you remember if that hood was maybe covered in a thick layer of putty or "Bondo" that may have cracked up? was there rust on top of the cracked sections or just between them? It didn't appear to be, it looked like it was factory paint, in fact over all the truck was straight, just rusting. The entire hood was eye candy for Virgil. It looked like a natural phenomenom.
Dr. Cranky Posted February 12, 2012 Posted February 12, 2012 Whenever I find a vehicle on someone's property, I always ask first if I can snap a photo. Sometimes meeting the person who drives the old clunker is infinitely more interested than the clunker itself!
Harry P. Posted February 12, 2012 Posted February 12, 2012 Whenever I find a vehicle on someone's property, I always ask first if I can snap a photo. Sometimes meeting the person who drives the old clunker is infinitely more interested than the clunker itself! You probably meet some quirky human "old clunkers" that way!
Dr. Cranky Posted February 12, 2012 Posted February 12, 2012 Tell me about, something they think I'm the dentist answering a house call!
Dr. Cranky Posted February 12, 2012 Posted February 12, 2012 Pat Covert told me this story once (the history behind the build pictured below) that he was driving around between AL and MS and he spotted this yard mule on someone's property so he knocked on the door and asked this old man for permission to photograph the car. The old timer had a blast telling him all about the vehicle and he was more than happy that Pat was taking pictures of it. Here's the result: The infamous "Camp Mule," a collaboration build between Mr. Covert and Mr. Hamilton: 1
Harry P. Posted February 12, 2012 Posted February 12, 2012 I have a feeling you can meet a lot of interesting people that way. See an old junker in the yard, knock on the door and ask to photograph it. I'll bet more often than not there's an interesting story attached to that old junker. And I'll also bet the people would be willing to tell you that story.
Dr. Cranky Posted February 12, 2012 Posted February 12, 2012 Oh, and you know that's pure gold for a writer!
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