gtx6970 Posted May 16, 2012 Posted May 16, 2012 Anyone know if or who makes a replacement grille for approx 1967 thru 1970 cheverolet and/ or GMC pickups ?
camaroman Posted May 16, 2012 Posted May 16, 2012 ModelHaus Search by year, style and part type http://www.modelhaus.com/
sstacey47 Posted May 16, 2012 Posted May 16, 2012 are you looking for a stock grille or a custom i have a custom one on my photobucket thats resin sean
gtx6970 Posted May 16, 2012 Author Posted May 16, 2012 The '67/'68 grilles are not a direct replacement to the '72 kit that's available now if that's what you'r thinking. It can work but you'll need to make the surround and filler peice below the grille from scratch. ,,, BUT, it can be done. You'll also need a hood and bumper but the ones from the '72 kit can be modified to look like '67/'68 parts. The '69/'70 grille/bumper from Modelhaus is a direct copy of the promo part, not the kit part. It's a poor fit as it comes but it'll fit better if you cut the grille and bumper apart and install it that way. The one from Bandit Resins might be a better choice if Kenny still makes it. I don't se it on his website right now though. That is exactly what I wanted to do. I have an old builder 72 thats missing the ft bumper and grille and it would be a perfect starting point( it has the custom grille in it now ) Plan is to convert the current 72 cab to a 1968 or 69 style cab ( gonna be a ramp bed truck so anything behind the cab will be scratchbuilt )
camaroman Posted May 16, 2012 Posted May 16, 2012 Plan is to convert the current 72 cab to a 1968 or 69 style cab ( gonna be a ramp bed truck so anything behind the cab will be scratchbuilt ) The cab's are the same in 1:1 scale, the difference is in the fenders and hood except trims. Can't speak to the kits or promos, but Mr Milberry seems to have nailed the look it in his great builds on his fotki pages!!!
camaroman Posted May 16, 2012 Posted May 16, 2012 ... The one from Bandit Resins might be a better choice if Kenny still makes it. I don't se it on his website right now though. I believe I read/saw somewhere that he was re doing the molds for those parts ...
Steven Zimmerman Posted May 16, 2012 Posted May 16, 2012 Race Motor Replicas has sme 67/72 Chevy GMC truck grilles, I believe.
Elliot949 Posted May 16, 2012 Posted May 16, 2012 The Modelhaus Resin 67/68 grille is as good if not better than the original AMT grille... I responded to your ad on the Wanted list for the cab but if you are wanting to do a 67/68 then I would look for a builtup on one of the auction sights... I have a built up 67 but it would be pricey to get it away from me... ;-)
camaroman Posted May 16, 2012 Posted May 16, 2012 I wish Revell would use their great 65/66 as a basis for a new 67-72 chevy line !! Both Stepside and Fleetside SWB would sell like hotcakes!!!
mikemodeler Posted May 16, 2012 Posted May 16, 2012 I wish Revell would use their great 65/66 as a basis for a new 67-72 chevy line !! Both Stepside and Fleetside SWB would sell like hotcakes!!! And it would be nice to have a 4x4 option too, or at least a chassis that lends itself to being built that way!
Art Anderson Posted May 17, 2012 Posted May 17, 2012 I wish Revell would use their great 65/66 as a basis for a new 67-72 chevy line !! Both Stepside and Fleetside SWB would sell like hotcakes!!! Two completely different pickup trucks, from the wheels up. Chassis are completely different, suspension is different, and of course, the sheet metal. Oh, the engine and tranny were carried over, though. Art
Edsel-Dan Posted May 17, 2012 Posted May 17, 2012 My Favorite era Chevy/GMC pickups. I have Several of them. Finally got a 68 to fill that gap. I was looking at the Custom grill from the recent 72's to see if it could be used to fill in the wider opening and allow the 667/68 grill to mount. Though I think an older version without the lights might be better. Maybe just cut out the center area and use the frame/surround?? I am curious though, Ertl/AMT/Round2 re-issued the 72 Fleetside 4 times in the past 15 years, so why is it so hard to find & so expensive?? I am also wondering, did they modify the shortbox Stepside GMC back into a Longbox Chevy??
Art Anderson Posted May 17, 2012 Posted May 17, 2012 My Favorite era Chevy/GMC pickups. I have Several of them. Finally got a 68 to fill that gap. I was looking at the Custom grill from the recent 72's to see if it could be used to fill in the wider opening and allow the 667/68 grill to mount. Though I think an older version without the lights might be better. Maybe just cut out the center area and use the frame/surround?? I am curious though, Ertl/AMT/Round2 re-issued the 72 Fleetside 4 times in the past 15 years, so why is it so hard to find & so expensive?? I am also wondering, did they modify the shortbox Stepside GMC back into a Longbox Chevy?? For starters, there were two entire sets of tooling for the '67-'72 Chevy trucks, AMT and MPC each producing these kits in competition with each other. The '67 and '68 versions are very nearly identical between both companies, but for '69, they diverge quite a bit (AMT used a simplified grille & front bumper assembly, MPC stayed with their established pattern. For 1971-72, AMT Corporation produced the GMC version of this pickup truck alongside their Chevy pickup kits, the GMC coming first as a Fleetside, the stepside coming a bit later in the 1972 year. The tooling for the GMC cab is different from that for the Chevy, in that the side "slide cores" in the tooling have engraving for GMC scripts and side trim. In addition, I believe the hoods are different, as is, of course, the chrome parts tree due to the different grilles and wheel covers. For 1969, GM Truck & Coach slightly facelifted these two series of trucks, with subtle changes in the front clip, notably the size of the opening for the grille, and a revised hood stamping. So, if one wants to do a 67 or 68 Chevy, one needs to have the cab from those two years, along with the hood, grille and interior (the latter for a correct factory stock replica). Art
Eshaver Posted May 17, 2012 Posted May 17, 2012 Two completely different pickup trucks, from the wheels up. Chassis are completely different, suspension is different, and of course, the sheet metal. Oh, the engine and tranny were carried over, though. Art Art, ya got that right . Coil springs were used all the way from 1961-7. Cabs were different , Shoot , I have to really think about besides the drive train that wasn't changed out in 1968. You would have thought another company built Chevrolet trucks then . I agree with Camaro Man on the fitment of 69-72 parts fitting a 67-8 Cab too. On 1-1 trucks , even the radiator support carried a different part number . A guy I used to do some Body work for in Ft Worth years ago tried to make 68 parts fir his 70 model with some real wierd adjustments to the sheet metal . Yeah, he took an air chisel to make everything fit and pass the State inspection laws . Ed Shaver
Longbox55 Posted May 17, 2012 Posted May 17, 2012 Coils were used from '60-'72, rear only on the '60-'62, all 4 corners '63-'72 on Chevrolet, GMC had leaf springs on the rear. 4x4 models used leaf springs all around. While there are plenty of differences between the '63-'66 and the '67-'72 frames, the suspension systems on the 2wd are suprisingly similar. Most parts are a direct interchange, including the front suspension main crossmember. There are differences in how the steering box mounts (the '63-'66 mounts the box in "recess" in the frame), the center link is different, and the Panhard rod for the rear alxe mounts different. There are further changes when you get to the '71/'72, the steering knuckles, tie rods, and ball joints are different due to the disk brakes (they can be swapped into the earlier trucks as a cheap way to get disk brakes, though) The basic front suspension is the same all they way up to '87 ('91 on Suburban).
JunkPile Posted May 18, 2012 Posted May 18, 2012 Thank you Longbox 55. Finally someone who knows what they are talking about when it comes to the frames and suspensions on '60-'72 GM pick-up trucks Coils were used from '60-'72, rear only on the '60-'62, all 4 corners '63-'72 on Chevrolet, GMC had leaf springs on the rear. 4x4 models used leaf springs all around. While there are plenty of differences between the '63-'66 and the '67-'72 frames, the suspension systems on the 2wd are suprisingly similar. Most parts are a direct interchange, including the front suspension main crossmember. There are differences in how the steering box mounts (the '63-'66 mounts the box in "recess" in the frame), the center link is different, and the Panhard rod for the rear alxe mounts different. There are further changes when you get to the '71/'72, the steering knuckles, tie rods, and ball joints are different due to the disk brakes (they can be swapped into the earlier trucks as a cheap way to get disk brakes, though) The basic front suspension is the same all they way up to '87 ('91 on Suburban).
camaroman Posted May 18, 2012 Posted May 18, 2012 As the current owner of a 68 Longbox and previous owner of 7 other 67-72 Chevy/GMC trucks and 2 64/66 Chevy pickups, I believe the chassis' are similar enough to use at least part of the 64/65 Kits molds for a starting point ...
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