58 Impala Posted July 27, 2012 Share Posted July 27, 2012 Quick question, is it necessary to put a silver base coat under Testors One coat metallics? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace-Garageguy Posted July 27, 2012 Share Posted July 27, 2012 (edited) Absolutely NOT. BUT, as the color IS translucent, the primer or basecoat color WILL effect the final color. A white primer or basecoat will brighten the final color, for instance. Also some of the "One Coat" colors really aren't. The "Flaming Orange" takes 4 coats to achieve full hiding, for instance. Edited July 27, 2012 by Ace-Garageguy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Darkside Customs Posted July 27, 2012 Share Posted July 27, 2012 Bill is right, it's not necessary... I do, just because it's out of habit, but I usually use a silver base coat for candies more than anything.... And it depends on the color of primer you use as a base for the one coats... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Brian Posted July 27, 2012 Share Posted July 27, 2012 I used an orange base under the flaming orange and got a decent result with one coat but, they really need a base coat of some kind but silver isn't the only option. I would go for a base that is a shade or two lighter than the one coat color you want, that will most likely get you single coat coverage and brighten the color. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace-Garageguy Posted July 27, 2012 Share Posted July 27, 2012 I used an orange base under the flaming orange and got a decent result with one coat but, they really need a base coat of some kind but silver isn't the only option. I would go for a base that is a shade or two lighter than the one coat color you want, that will most likely get you single coat coverage and brighten the color. Brian's right, the basecoat will have a large effect on the final color. Silver base tends to "gray" the topcoat. White will brighten it, as will very light yellow. I was recently running out of Flaming Orange and shot a couple of panels to hiding with Fiery Orange, and 2 topcoats of Flaming Orange. There was a noticeable difference in the final color, and the Flaming Orange shot over white primer really popped and flashed, while the other was just a tad dark. I should have defined what I mean by "full coverage" better. Professional painters often use "hiding cards" to determine how many coats it takes of a particular color to achieve full hiding. This is important in the body shop biz because it effects the blend procedure during paint-matching on adjacent panels. A "hiding card" is simply a black-and-white printed checkerboard on solvent-resistant cardstock. It takes 4 coats of the "one coat" Flaming Orange to be unable the distinguish the pattern through the paint, or to achieve "full hiding". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Brian Posted July 27, 2012 Share Posted July 27, 2012 The problem I was having was that the fiery orange was so thin that by the time the panels were covered well so much paint was against the trim it made a darker outline around eveything. What I did was shoot a coat of regular testors orange and once that had dried for an hour or so I shot a coat of the fiery orange over it almost like clear coat, thick enough to get even flake coverage but thin enough not to run. If you want a neat effect try the same thing over bright red, you get an orange top coat but this red peeks out in the light. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
58 Impala Posted July 27, 2012 Author Share Posted July 27, 2012 Thank for all the tips. I've shot mettalics,pearls and candies. Most of those need a base of some kind. I bought several cans of One Coat and didn't want to waste paint or ruin a paint job and have to use the purple bath. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace-Garageguy Posted July 28, 2012 Share Posted July 28, 2012 Brian, thanks for the tip on the metallic orange over the red. I'm going to HAVE to try that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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