joeymazz Posted September 11, 2012 Posted September 11, 2012 Ok guys day two on this site and this is my second post. thanks to all on the help with my first post. if you didn't see my first post my new project is a revell 32 ford sedan 2n1. as i said in the first post i planned on chopping channeling and scratchbuilding a frame. well that was my plan but my wallet didn't agree. after spending $100 at the local hobby store today on various tools, glues and others i decided not to buy the material needed for the frame. i havn't ruled it out was just looking for some input before i try to use the stock frame in the box. i think it would work if i cut off the back of the frame behind the rear axle. didn't know if anyone on here has channeled the same model and could give me some insight on it. did you use the stock frame ect. pics would be great not trying to rip off anyones ideas just trying to get the juices flowing. like i said this is my first model in 12 or 13 years so im not rushing it. tonight im going to try to lay out lines for the chop. any insight on that would be great too but it looks as if that part is going to be pretty staight forward. but if you guys have done it and know of anything to look out for when doing the chop that would be great as well. thanks guys for any help you can give me. joey
southpier Posted September 11, 2012 Posted September 11, 2012 if you are just getting back into the swing of things, scale back the plans for a couple of models until you feel comfortable with the advances in kit detail, materials, and building again. you'll soon discove what a great resource the internet has become for - well, everything! have you joined here yet? http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=5 if you need it, someone there will help you.
Jantrix Posted September 11, 2012 Posted September 11, 2012 Agreed, please check the "Walk Then Run" link in my signature line below. It's not wise to take on too much too soon. Learn the basics first.
Ace-Garageguy Posted September 11, 2012 Posted September 11, 2012 I'm not understanding exactly what you mean by "cut the frame off behind the rear axle". I assume you want to do this so the body will slip down over the rails to effect the channel. This would of course be necessary to do it in 1:1, so you're probably on the right track. You'll have to slot or clearance the firewall for the frame rails too, obviously. There are a lot of mods you can do to the '32 chassis to get a car lower, both in 1:1 and the model. Here's a tutorial I did at one of the neighbors on zee-ing the Revell '32 frame, with a little bonus on model 'A' frames thrown in. The procedure is basically the same as in 1:1. http://cs.scaleautomag.com/sca/tips_techniques/f/10/p/94528/996767.aspx#996767
joeymazz Posted September 11, 2012 Author Posted September 11, 2012 thanks guys for the advice i know i should walk first but the reason i got back into models is to challenge myself. i can build a nice quality out of box model but wanted to do something different. i went ahead and chopped the body last night and i was suprised at the outcome i got. it actually turned out quite nice. and on that 32 coupe you z'ed the frame on how did you get the back of the frame short enough to get into the body did you cut off the gas tank area which was what i was refering to when i said cut the frame off behind the axle? heres a couple pix of the chop. i took my time laying out my lines before destroying a body. it took me about an hour to lay the line and all of about 15 minutes to cut it with a razor saw.
Ken Kitchen Posted September 11, 2012 Posted September 11, 2012 thanks guys for the advice i know i should walk first but the reason i got back into models is to challenge myself. i can build a nice quality out of box model but wanted to do something different. i went ahead and chopped the body last night and i was suprised at the outcome i got. it actually turned out quite nice. and on that 32 coupe you z'ed the frame on how did you get the back of the frame short enough to get into the body did you cut off the gas tank area which was what i was refering to when i said cut the frame off behind the axle? heres a couple pix of the chop. i took my time laying out my lines before destroying a body. it took me about an hour to lay the line and all of about 15 minutes to cut it with a razor saw. Cutting the gas tank and shortening the frame rails to channel the body over the frame is a pretty common trick. The chassis in the Revell 32 Fords is one of the nicest parts of the kit so I'm glad you decided to keep it. Great job on the chop by the way.
joeymazz Posted September 11, 2012 Author Posted September 11, 2012 thanks ken and your right the frame is nice along with the rest of the kit is probly the best quality kit i have seen so far. little to no flashing on parts and everything fits nice so far. now its time to do some body work and i may do some other stuff to the body dont know yet. p.s. the hemi in the pic is just for reference and i haven't decided if im going to us flat head or hemi or some other motors i have laying around. also still not sure whether im going rat rod or street rod or in between. thanks guys. i may need to start a post in on the bench and post of progress pix
Ace-Garageguy Posted September 11, 2012 Posted September 11, 2012 thanks guys for the advice i know i should walk first but the reason i got back into models is to challenge myself. i can build a nice quality out of box model but wanted to do something different. i went ahead and chopped the body last night and i was suprised at the outcome i got. it actually turned out quite nice. and on that 32 coupe you z'ed the frame on how did you get the back of the frame short enough to get into the body did you cut off the gas tank area which was what i was refering to when i said cut the frame off behind the axle? heres a couple pix of the chop. i took my time laying out my lines before destroying a body. it took me about an hour to lay the line and all of about 15 minutes to cut it with a razor saw. Nice job. Hard to beat thought and preparation BEFORE you start hacking. And yes, cutting the tank and the ends of the rails off is one way. You can remove the tank and slot the rear body panels for the rails, but I think bobbing the rails looks better, personally.
joeymazz Posted September 12, 2012 Author Posted September 12, 2012 thanks ace and yes i like that look as well i already cut the tank out and shortened the rails. now i have to lengthen the axle to get wheels to clear body and im going to cut the back seat out and put a fuel cell in the back. if anyone knows any good places to shop for wheels and tires please feel free to post the links i need to figure out what wheels and tires im going to use before i do anything with the frame
VW Dave Posted September 13, 2012 Posted September 13, 2012 (edited) Not long ago I put together a 'quick and dirty' tutorial on channeling the Revell '32 using just the kit-supplied parts, and maybe it will help: http://public.fotki....eling-a-revell/ Here's a quick photo of an OOB vs. channeled '32, using the same tires and suspension parts. You can see that the lower shock mount is at the same position on both, and the difference is the body's position over the frame: Edited September 13, 2012 by VW Dave
VW Dave Posted September 13, 2012 Posted September 13, 2012 I also used the above technique to get my 'Channel Surfer' deuce roadster in the weeds:
joeymazz Posted September 15, 2012 Author Posted September 15, 2012 thanks dave. i already channeled the sedan and im not using inner fender wells because im going for a rat/hotrod look. im now in the process of cutting down the interior panels to fit with the body all the way down on the frame. i wasn't going to use the back seat but i want a challenge so im going to attempt to keep the back seat and lower it down in the car. where did you get those wheels and tires dave. ive been looking for different wheels and tires to use dont really know where to look. i want the rat rod look in tires i want the rear tires to be in the rear windows of the sedan. like it is in the pic it doesn't have to be that extreme tho as long as they are in the window somewhat.
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