Paul Bunyan Posted September 20, 2012 Posted September 20, 2012 Hello, What are your thoughts about using co2 gas instead of an air compressor? thanks in advance Rich
martinfan5 Posted September 20, 2012 Posted September 20, 2012 (edited) Its the same thing as using a spray can, only difference is you add the color's. It will not work the same as an A/B, you wont be able to control the PSI like you can with an A/B Edited September 20, 2012 by martinfan5
Fat Brian Posted September 20, 2012 Posted September 20, 2012 (edited) What kind of container will the co2 be in? If it's some little cartidge or can it probably won't be worth it but if you are getting it in a large container with a regulator you might be on to something. I have heard of people who live in apartments and don't want the sound of an air compressor running but still need to air brush using small nitrogen bottles from a welding supply store. The tanks are fairly cheap to refill and last for a good while. Edited September 20, 2012 by Fat Brian
Paul Bunyan Posted September 20, 2012 Author Posted September 20, 2012 Brain, I have 20lb cylinder with regulator, unlimited supply of co2 thanks for your reply Rich
Fat Brian Posted September 20, 2012 Posted September 20, 2012 It sounds like you have what you need to get started. I would still use a secondary air brush style regulator with at least a filter but your cylinder should work fine as long as it holds a couple hundred pounds of pressure. It needs to be high enough over your cut pressure to keep a steady regulated pressure as the main tank pressure drops. I apologize if that is confusing, I work with high pressure gas and it makes sense to me but I know what I'm trying to say. Let me say this, once set to a specific downstream pressure most regulators require the upstream pressure to remain constant. If the upstream(tank) pressure drops too far the downstream(air brush) pressure will begin to drop also.
Art Anderson Posted September 20, 2012 Posted September 20, 2012 CO2 can be gotten in 25lb bottles from just about any beverage wholesaler. You will need a pressure regulator made for use with the extremely high psi in one of those commercial bottles, plus a good quality pressure regulator to reduce the pressure for use with an airbrush. CO2 is a dry gas, no moisture whatsoever, so no water trap will be necessary, and as the gas is also clean, no filter will be necessary either (after all, beverage CO2 is a food grade gas). One thing to keep in mind though,is safety! Break that brass valve off, and your CO2 tank will behave like a rocket--I experienced that at a McDonald's where I was a manager years ago--that bottle (50lbs) fell over, knocked the valve system off of the top, and it shot across the storeroom, and punched a hole in the concrete basement wall. So, secure the tank upright, with a length of light weight chain so that it cannot fall over. Those tanks generally are sold on a returnable basis, a deposit on the tank, and quite possibly on the valve and regulator as well--in effect, you only pay for the gas used. Art
CadillacPat Posted September 20, 2012 Posted September 20, 2012 Of course you can use a tank of CO2 for your airbrush. All you will need is a Pressure Regulator. Just Search or Google any AirBrush Sites and you'll see this subject discussed. Some people use Scuba tanks to hold their propellant. CadillacPat
Guest G Holding Posted September 20, 2012 Posted September 20, 2012 Few facts. Cylinders for compressed gasses can be bought, leased or rented. Leasing usually works out the best vs owning. This is due to the cost of the cylinder,and all cylinders must be "hydro checked" every 10 years or so. Initial cost can be pricy...check what works the best. All cylinders can be refilled...not on site though Also if you lease they will lease a regulator also...do the math, I did and thats why I have a compressor. My wife has run the office of a welding gas supplier for many years and she does the numbers.
Fat Brian Posted September 20, 2012 Posted September 20, 2012 (edited) Based on Rich's post he might be able to refill the bottle for free. But Greg is right about the cost and the testing requirements of the tanks, unless there are special circumstances like trying to be quiet a compressor will be cheaper in the long run, unless of course you can refill for free. Edited September 20, 2012 by Fat Brian
Paul Bunyan Posted September 20, 2012 Author Posted September 20, 2012 yes the cost of the gas and tank is zero. I was worried more about the moisture, but Art answered it..thx.. just curious if anyone else was using c02 rich
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